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Tim Berners-Lee
@timbl
A prize for the solid app which makes it easiest to add a photo to your insta stream
That is the barrier there for adoption of web based things said folks at Google
And they were right I suspect
Make a phone app
Too
Ruben Verborgh
@RubenVerborgh
Yes, delivering a new photo experience with Solid would be a killer app
Kjetil Kjernsmo
@kjetilk
I'm not so sure of the "killer", I'd say it is a necessary but not sufficient condition for killing it ;-)
Melvin Carvalho
@melvincarvalho
im interested in photo experiences and solid
a nice recent tutorial here on how to create an instagram JS app
It seems that the products, services and outcomes of organizational practices relating to privacy protection should be judged also according to the level of authentication of the user. If the user doesn't provide enough information to authenticate themselves to the service provider, then the privacy outcomes should be judged differently.
Tim Berners-Lee
@timbl
Unless your browser logs you into chrome silently of course
Melvin Carvalho
@melvincarvalho
boy did they got a lot of hate for that -- the saga continues : https://www.blog.google/products/chrome/product-updates-based-your-feedback/
tag42git
@tag42git
I still use chrome but I know I shouldnt...
Mark Hughes (happybeing)
@theWebalyst
Yep, people will continue until they are dragged away screaming, and this is the human characteristic that corporations use to exploit, manipulate and abuse them. Just sayin' :smile:
tag42git
@tag42git
I have an Android, which I guess is a Google thing, but I bought it thinking since it was Linux based it would be more open
Mark Hughes (happybeing)
@theWebalyst
Yes, it is hard to escape but for everyday browsing there are decent alternatives to Chrome, Firefox being the one I use most. I use it for debugging, but I avoid Google and its products where I can (and have been banned from facebook for not accepting their privacy update - which I expect will be shown to violate GDPR along with many Google practices).
tag42git
@tag42git
I'm not sure if that was before they dropped 'dont be evil' from their mission statement or not :)
tag42git
@tag42git
Although I'm sure many good people work there at google
Mark Hughes (happybeing)
@theWebalyst
No, they're all evil I assure you :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
tag42git
@tag42git
Lol ... I better sign off now :)
Melvin Carvalho
@melvincarvalho

@tag42git @theWebalyst a popular meme is that the "dont be evil" motto only applies on odd numbered weeks

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Leading internet search engine Google will acknowledge that it has made “mistakes” on privacy issues in testimony an executive of the Alphabet Inc (GOOGL.O) unit will deliver to a U.S. Senate committee on Wednesday, according to a document reviewed by Reuters

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-internet-privacy/google-will-acknowledge-prior-mistakes-on-privacy-senate-testimony-idUSKCN1M52RG

Mark Hughes (happybeing)
@theWebalyst
:)
Melvin Carvalho
@melvincarvalho

https://www.scaleway.com/docs/s3-object-storage-api/

I just noticed these new features on web hosting service

Looks quite similar to LDP / Solid

  • GET Service ✔ Returns a list of all buckets
  • DELETE Bucket ✔ Deletes bucket
  • GET Bucket ✔ Lists objects
  • GET Bucket ACL ✔ Returns the bucket ACL
  • PUT Bucket ✔ Creates bucket
  • PUT Bucket ACL ✔ Configures the Access Control List of a bucket

Same for Objects (think resource)

Martynas Jusevicius
@namedgraph_twitter
isn’ this standard CRUD? (done properly)
Melvin Carvalho
@melvincarvalho
with ACLs
and listings
like an LDPC
it would appear that amazon s3 does this too
would be interesting if that could be made into a solid server
Martynas Jusevicius
@namedgraph_twitter
not sure why ACL has to be exposed if we have OPTIONS header?
Tim Berners-Lee
@timbl
@melvincarvalho Yes that is interesting … Service->Pod; Bucket-> Folder; ACL->ACL
Can you have buckets within other buckets I wonder
Tim Berners-Lee
@timbl
The ACLs seem to map very closely … they even have the notion of control permission, and they have a group which contains everybody
  <AccessControlPolicy xmlns="http://s3.amazonaws.com/doc/2006-03-01/">
    <Owner>
      <ID>a6a05c73-fa53-46a4-9ea1-e53b4f625527:a6a05c73-fa53-46a4-9ea1-e53b4f625527</ID>
      <DisplayName>a6a05c73-fa53-46a4-9ea1-e53b4f625527:a6a05c73-fa53-46a4-9ea1-e53b4f625527</DisplayName>
    </Owner>
    <AccessControlList>
      <Grant>
        <Grantee xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:type="Group">
          <URI>http://acs.amazonaws.com/groups/global/AllUsers</URI>
        </Grantee>
        <Permission>READ</Permission>
      </Grant>
      <Grant>
        <Grantee xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:type="CanonicalUser">
          <ID>a6a05c73-fa53-46a4-9ea1-e53b4f625527:a6a05c73-fa53-46a4-9ea1-e53b4f6255273</ID>
          <DisplayName>a6a05c73-fa53-46a4-9ea1-e53b4f625527:a6a05c73-fa53-46a4-9ea1-e53b4f625527</DisplayName>
        </Grantee>
        <Permission>FULL_CONTROL</Permission>
      </Grant>
    </AccessControlList>
  </AccessControlPolicy>
AccessControlList > Authorization; Grant -> agent ; Permission -> Mode
Melvin Carvalho
@melvincarvalho
ah yes it does match closely, I think an xslt and add urn:uuid would work!

it appears you can also change the mime type on amazon S3

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/19100858/how-do-you-change-the-mime-on-amazon-s3

so amazon storage is quite close to solid compliant
Ruben Verborgh
@RubenVerborgh
I just released solid-auth-client@2.2.5, which, due to an updated build process, is now 120kb in size instead of 180kb
Please test
Martynas Jusevicius
@namedgraph_twitter
@timbl how do you define a Pod?
Pod = URIbase × ??? × ??? ...
Ted Thibodeau Jr
@TallTed
@timbl @melvincarvalho
S3 Buckets cannot contain other buckets (sub-buckets), but you can have "folders" within "folders" within Buckets. S3 is all a kludge over one huge flat-file directory.
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/user-guide/using-folders.html
@melvincarvalho
Yes, you can change a MIME type, among other object (Resource) metadata. From the horse's mouth -- https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/user-guide/add-object-metadata.html
Melvin Carvalho
@melvincarvalho
lovely!
Tim Berners-Lee
@timbl
Pod — a solid folder which is not contained by any other folder?
Martynas Jusevicius
@namedgraph_twitter
Tim you like logic and N3 and all that, so why not define concepts formally and unambiguously, instead of using prose?