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elf Pavlik
@elf-pavlik
@Mitzi-Laszlo can we pick a github repo to store Thursday's calls minutes from HackMD? I could make PR with today's minutes on https://hackmd.io/D_ZPm6hSQBWm2QLb5EEodQ?edit
then we can just point to it from https://www.w3.org/community/solid/wiki/Meetings and don't bother with that extra mediawiki space
Mitzi László
@Mitzi-Laszlo
Thank you @elf-pavlik for taking the minutes again, super helpful
Perhaps we could pop the minutes on each weeks This Week in Solid and a note on the details for the next call?
Dmitri Zagidulin
@dmitrizagidulin
@michielbdejong re difference between panels#app-authorization and editors#authorization -- I think just the former's a narrower scope. and the latter's a superset (all sorts of authorization, /including/ app authz)
Mitzi László
@Mitzi-Laszlo
Check out the next edition of This Week in Solid. Congratulations to the editor appointments @dmitrizagidulin @dmitrizagidulin @kjetilk and great that there have already been editorial reviews! If you could update the details here that would be great. Also if you are part of a project or panel please do feel free to add a summary in natural language for next week to make the link dump a little more digestible. Importantly if you are on a panel and would like to submit a proposal for review make sure to add it here to kick start the editorial review process.
Henry Story
@bblfish
Anyone else have trouble opening links on the semantic-web mailing list archive links on their phone? https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/semantic-web/2019Aug/0103.html
Henry Story
@bblfish
Ah, I rebooted my phone, and it now works.
Michiel de Jong
@michielbdejong
@dmitrizagidulin Right! Good point. authorization encompasses authorization of (roughly) users + apps + bots, and our panel is only about the second one, but our editor team is about all of them. I’ll at least document for each panel who the editors are.
Tim Berners-Lee
@timbl
@solid-pay , solidest.space has beeen captured by bandits.
Dmitri Zagidulin
@dmitrizagidulin
yeah, the usual ‘domain has expired’ squatters
Arne Hassel
@megoth_twitter
Think this was shared here before, but it bears reposting I think - an interesting talk on Libra and Facebook, but more interesting for us the talk about "true" decentralization wrt identities - https://media.ccc.de/v/Camp2019-10317-fighting_back_against_libra_-_decentralizing_facebook_connect
Dmitri Zagidulin
@dmitrizagidulin
i am highly skeptical of his unlimitedId :/
Aron Homberg
@kyr0
Me as well
Stefan Junker
@steveeJ
I'm tinkering with a pod I've created on solid.community via the web interface and am wondering how to delete files. or is this meant to be append only?
Justin Bingham
@justinwb
no you can delete through the web ui
Stefan Junker
@steveeJ
@justinwb thanks, I just found the hidden delete button :-D
it only appears when i hover over it
Justin Bingham
@justinwb
yep - there’s a bit of hidden functionality for some of those operations
similarly a way to upload a file into a container is to drag it onto the green plus
Stefan Junker
@steveeJ
is this specific to the pod server implementation?
Justin Bingham
@justinwb
partly - it is the default ui for node-solid-server, but you could also run it from any server implementation as the default ui (so it isn’t necessarily tied 1:1)
there’s a bunch of work happening now to make it a bit more user friendly
but you’re also free to run a different one altogether if you choose
Stefan Junker
@steveeJ
I'm trying to understand the architecture. so solid.community serves the UI which is hardcoded to use a specific pod server?
I have been thinking of writing a pod server in Rust. maybe it'll be useful, but the motivation would be to learn what a pod server is about in detail
I can't even estimate how ambitious this would be at this point
Justin Bingham
@justinwb
it’d be great to see a rust implementation - plenty of people here to support you in different ways if you’re interested in doing that
Stefan Junker
@steveeJ
I have almost no experience in frontend development, so if the UI could be an external dependency that'd be encouraging ;-)
Justin Bingham
@justinwb
solid.community is a pod provider (free pod hosting), that is running node-solid-server (https://github.com/solid/node-solid-server)
and yes you could just use the current data-browser/solid-ui on top of it
Stefan Junker
@steveeJ
would you mind pointing me to the frontend files in the repo?
Stefan Junker
@steveeJ
thanks!
Arne Hassel
@megoth_twitter
You want use the files in mashlib/dist if you only want the files to serve
Stefan Junker
@steveeJ
@justinwb so this is where the UI is looked up and sent to the client: https://github.com/solid/node-solid-server/blob/0555e66f35ea0248a45bbe5249a125d4fb15b53e/lib/handlers/get.js#L90-L101 or is there some magic I'm missing? my JS is not fluent at all ;-)
Arne Hassel
@megoth_twitter
It's requiring the files from mashlib
If you want a dev setup for it, you can check out https://github.com/inrupt/mashlib-dev, it aims to ease the setup for development
I just made it public - we've used it internally at inrupt to ease development amongst ourselves - so might be a bit around the edges
But it should make it easier ^_^ Feature and pull requests welcome, of course
Stefan Junker
@steveeJ
@megoth_twitter, unlikely there will be PRs on the front-end from my side, but thanks ;-)
I was trying to figure out how the UI relates to the pod server implementation, which I understand now
Arne Hassel
@megoth_twitter
Sweet ^_^
Stefan Junker
@steveeJ
based on the 'Accept' header the mashlib UI is not sent at all
Aron Homberg
@kyr0

I have almost no experience in frontend development, so if the UI could be an external dependency that'd be encouraging ;-)

I wanted to implement a new UI / frontend for pod servers using Material Design and my SpringType framework (react, angular, vue competitor). Maybe we could team up

Arne Hassel
@megoth_twitter
The more data browsers applications the merrier, of course ^_^
Maybe we can at some point work on standards that make modules interoperable as well
Aron Homberg
@kyr0
Yes, I'd suggest framework-independent and reusable Web Components
Arne Hassel
@megoth_twitter
:+1:
Stefan Junker
@steveeJ
@kyr0 as mentioned above I won't be very helpful on the front-end side