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Vitor Py
@vitorpy
Am I missing something in the environment?
Jeff Zucker
@jeff-zucker
@vitorpy you should probably ask that over here : https://gitter.im/solid/node-solid-server
I mean, here is fine, but more likely to get a response over there
Vitor Py
@vitorpy
Oh, thanks, I'll ask over there as well
rustra
@rustra_gitlab
thanks, @dmitrizagidulin, it works now! redirect_uris expected array instead of string.
saad
@saadnpq
Hello everyone! I am planning to make my new project a Solid social networking app (similar to mastodon). but I've been reading about solid for two days now and I have some questions that I need to answer before investing my time and effort in Solid:
1) is there a way for the data to be encrypted on the pod?
2) what about streaming videos and audio, how this is handled?
3) what if for example a post has a thousand comments, is it practical to query a thousand pods
saad
@saadnpq
probably I am already sold out, but I just can't take those question out of my mind
matrixbot
@matrixbot

aveltens > 3) what if for example a post has a thousand comments, is it practical to query a thousand pods

This is less spectacular than it sounds. You won't load thousand comments in advance, only as much as shown on screen and perhaps a buffer of some more to increase the percepted loading speed. Then you will have some kind of paging or infinite scrolling to load more comments while the user is browsing. Let's say you are showing 10 posts initially and add batches of ten while scrolling down. Load 20 initially, when scrolling down the next 10 are already loaded and show instantly. Same for the next batches. Loading comments from 20 Pods in parallel(1) is totally feasible.

(1) some apps make the mistake and load lists of resources sequentially. This is of course a total performance killer.

aveltens > 1) is there a way for the data to be encrypted on the pod?

Nothing build in unfortunately. But of course your app can encrypt any data and store the encrypted version on a pod. But for encryption, key management etc you need to rely on solutions outside of the Solid ecosystem for now.

saad
@saadnpq
Thanks for answering
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
@saadnpq Those are great questions. In case they are not raised in the form of user stories (see issues): https://github.com/solid/user-stories , it'd be usefu if you can capture them in there. There will be a Use Cases and Requirements document published and it'll be captured there. It will influence the specifications as well.
matrixbot
@matrixbot

walteralmeida > <@gitter_saadnpq:matrix.org> Hello everyone! I am planning to make my new project a Solid social networking app (similar to mastodon). but I've been reading about solid for two days now and I have some questions that I need to answer before investing my time and effort in Solid:

Hello saad (Gitter) , great to see that you want to create a new Social network on top on Solid. I read you saw my post https://forum.solidproject.org/t/new-decentralized-social-network-specialized-in-sharing-public-and-creative-common-content/3027/36 and you will see that I am having a similar intention. How do you feel about joining our efforts ? If so let's connect

walteralmeida > <@gitter_saadnpq:matrix.org> Hello everyone! I am planning to make my new project a Solid social networking app (similar to mastodon). but I've been reading about solid for two days now and I have some questions that I need to answer before investing my time and effort in Solid:

Hello saad (Gitter) , great to see that you want to create a new Social network on top on Solid. I read you saw my post https://forum.solidproject.org/t/new-decentralized-social-network-specialized-in-sharing-public-and-creative-common-content/3027 . You will see that I have a similar intention, what about joining our forces ? Let's connect if you feel like it !

matrixbot
@matrixbot
walteralmeida saad (Gitter): join me here https://www.eventbrite.com/e/technical-presentation-of-the-low-code-platform-generative-objects-tickets-107617552998 for a technical presentation of the Generative Objects technology I planned to use in complement to Solid for this new social network
saad
@saadnpq
Of course I will check it out. Thank you.
@csarven That's a great resource. I was searching for something like that. Thank you
Mitzi László
@Mitzi-Laszlo
@saadnpq great that you are looking into making a Solid social networking app. In answer to your questions you might enjoy https://solidproject.org/faqs also have you checked out Darcy https://ibex.darcy.is/feed with @jollyorc
Mitzi László
@Mitzi-Laszlo
Tune into the monthly webinar Solid World in four hours. More details on the speakers and dial-in details can be found on the invite. If you have questions for the speakers please pop them here
eduardodir
@eduardodir
Is there some official 1-2 page slider on Solid? Or someone that has done some "elevator pitch" slides that can be reused to present Solid on any occasion? A typical type of presentation like that is usually very right on target What, Why, How, When, Who.
Alexander Praetorius
@serapath
is SOLID related to DIDs or does that serve entirely different use cases?
Fabian Cook
@fabiancook
dids can be contained within the data that solid stores
Matthias Evering
@ewingson
happy birthday @timbl !!!!! I dedicate https://solidweb.org to your life and work.....
Iwan Aucamp
@aucampia
hi
not sure if this is best place to ask
why does http://www.ontobee.org/ontology/IAO not import other otntologies
Justin Bingham
@justinwb
@serapath solid relies on an identity associated with a unique URI that can be dereferenced to a linked data profile document. both webid and did can satisfy this. to date implementations have used webid because did is still in early stages, but from a technical standpoint both are valid, assuming you have a ready way to resolve the dids for a given did method
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
Alexander Praetorius
@serapath
so solid is what?
...it uses either webid or did but itself it does what?
Alexander Praetorius
@serapath
i found https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebID
but i also found the w3c working on did.
how do they relate?
Mark Hughes (happybeing/theWebalyst)
@happybeing
@serapath the core is a RESTful storage protocol (LDP) built around RDF in order to facilitate interoperability between apps on data controlled by the user.
Alexander Praetorius
@serapath

@theWebalyst which one? solid? or webid or did? i assume solid.
And solid uses webid or did and why one over another? did solid switch from webid to did?

sorry for all those beginner questions - just trying to wrap my head around the topic :-)

Mark Hughes (happybeing/theWebalyst)
@happybeing
@serapath No need to apologise, all good questions. Yes, I meant Solid. I don't know the full history, or much about DID. WebID was developed alongside Solid, most likely with it in mind. Everything implementing Solid must support WebID as it is part of the Solid spec. DID came later, and while it may be possible to integrate it with Solid I've not seen any work demonstrating that.
Dmitri Zagidulin
@dmitrizagidulin
@theWebalyst @serapath right, so, basically DID is a successor/continuation of WebID. (some of the WebID implementors were involved in starting up the DID working group, etc).
DIDs are not currently supported on Node Solid Server. There is currently a proposal to integrate them with the Solid spec over at solid/identity-panel#1
(I'm working on adding support for DIDs to a server, but that's unofficial.)
Dmitri Zagidulin
@dmitrizagidulin
the important thing to note is - WebIDs and DIDs can be completely inter-operable. (essentially, can have links to each other)
as far as Solid is concerned.
Kingsley Idehen
@kidehen

@dmitrizagidulin :
:point_up: June 9, 2020 1:51 PM

@theWebalyst @serapath right, so, basically DID is a successor/continuation of WebID. (some of the WebID implementors were involved in starting up the DID working group, etc).

Like whom? I ask as someone who has been involved with WebID since the acronym was coined.

DiD is not a continuation of WebID. It is a parallel work that is compatible based on the sheer nature of a WebID (an HTTP URI that Identifies an Agent), once properly understood.

Properly understood means, appreciation, leverage, and support of "#" based HTTP URIs i.e., not repeating what happened in JSON-LD where said variant wasn't supported until JSON-LD 1.1.

DiD has nothing to do with the WebID-TLS protocol i.e., it doesn't use that protocol to implement Self-Sovereign Identity. This is a very important distinction that shouldn't be overlooked when discussing this most important matter.

Dmitri Zagidulin
@dmitrizagidulin
@kidehen I just meant the Digital Bazaar folks (I don't think Drummond Reed was involved in WebIDs, but I'm not sure). I mention them as implementors since they wrote the library Solid was using for webid-tls on the server side. etc.
Kingsley Idehen
@kidehen

@dmitrizagidulin,

Okay, that clarifies what you meant :)
DiD and WebIDs do mesh quite naturally, once the notion and utility of a "#" based HTTP URI is accepted. It took a while to get this into JSON-LD as reflected by its belated support in JSON-LD 1.1.

In terms of aligning with a DiD (a Document) and a WebID (Identifier), it is helpful to make the following clear, as the conversational window and context permits:

A DiD is a credentials doc .
A WebID is an Identifier that can be used in a DiD doc to denote an Agent .

The magic of RDF deployed using Linked Data principles handles the rest :)

Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
I've captured a bit of WebID (formerly known as FOAF+SSL) history here: https://csarven.ca/linked-research-decentralised-web#foaf+ssl
Henry Story
@bblfish
Ah cool, I did not realize that JSON-LD 1.0 did not have support for #urls and that JSON-LD 1.1 does. What does a #url look like in 1.1?
Mitzi László
@Mitzi-Laszlo
@eduardodir you can find past presentations about Solid on https://solidproject.org/press including some slide decks.
@serapath https://forum.solidproject.org/c/use-solid/connection-to-other-initiatives would be a good place to talk about the relationship between Solid and DID
201419003CVM
@201419003CVM
Good day ladies and gentleman. My name is Clinton Maphosa, a BSc Honours in Computer Science student at the University of Johannesburg in South Africa. For my Honours project I have been tasked to add functionality to the Solid project and present it to my supervisor at the end of the year.
I would really appreciate help with my project. Is it the Solid project open source and is it available on GitHub? Your guidance and response will be much appreciated.
Vincent
@Vinnl_gitlab

Hi @201419003CVM, what type of functionality would you like to add, i.e. what is your expertise? There is a repository on GitHub, which mostly revolves around the specification (i.e. the work there is not programming): https://github.com/solid/specification/

Alternatively, you could look at the following things: