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Iwan Aucamp
@aucampia
I mean that
Henry Story
@bblfish
Ah so you found what you wanted then: an ontology of relations in the biological space.
Iwan Aucamp
@aucampia
Is it biology specific ?
Not sure
I guess maybe somehwat
Iwan Aucamp
@aucampia
Iwan Aucamp
@aucampia
I'm wondering- maybe there is a upper ontology more suited to engineering and product analysis
matrixbot
@matrixbot
bjonnh BFO has been used for engineering
bjonnh It is used in the military as well
bjonnh Quite a lot of great resources here (courses, videos, slides...)
bjonnh Specifically around your question
Jeff Zucker
@jeff-zucker
@aucampia U. Toronto has done a bunch of work on "smart cities" ontologies which, since they need to measure things like bridge construction and energy use have overlap with engineering.
Iwan Aucamp
@aucampia
thanks bjonnh and jeff
Matthias Evering
@ewingson
solidweb.org upgraded to 5.3.0
Alain Bourgeois
@bourgeoa
@/all solid.community:8443 test server upgraded to v5.3.0
Please report any problem, before we upgrade solid.community to 5.2.3
Iwan Aucamp
@aucampia
more questions which may not be super on topic
If there is a better place to ask please point me to it
is there any convention for mixing json-ld with json-schema?
Kingsley Idehen
@kidehen

@henry re :point_up: June 11, 2020 1:27 AM.

See:
[1] json-ld/json-ld.org#488 -- the journey
[2] https://medium.com/@kidehen/simple-linked-data-deployment-tutorial-using-json-ld-notation-3e753a5d44a3 -- Simple Linked Data Deployment using JSON-LD

Basically, I could write #2 once the JSON-LD 1.0 bug re support for relative HTTP URIs was fixed i.e., a rendition of https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog/simple-linked-data-deployment-tutorial-a532e568c82f#thisPost :)

Mitzi László
@Mitzi-Laszlo
@aucampia you might also enjoy https://forum.solidproject.org where there is also a way to search questions that have been asked in the past
sideshowtom
@sideshowtom
Hi. Don't know if this is the right place to ask, but is the ontology/vocabulary of Solid terms at https://www.w3.org/ns/solid/terms still in use and up to date with the specification work? We are talking at https://forum.solidproject.org/t/volunteers-needed-for-solidlov-app/3177/54 about an app to use the Linked Open Vocabularies dataset on Solid pods and the question came up in that context.
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
@sideshowtom The namespace is http not https.
sideshowtom
@sideshowtom
oops i just copied the link from safari on my ipad
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
@sideshowtom Feel free to raise spec questions in https://gitter.im/solid/specification or on GitHub with the same path. There is also https://github.com/solid/vocab that's intended as the place to request/register etc terms.
sideshowtom
@sideshowtom
ok i will ask at ../specification
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
Hmm, not sure what your Safari is doing.. but it is really http!
The base is definitely set to http
and as far as I know or can tell, http doesn't redirect to https for that URL
If you can pass it on in the forum that http is the canonical, that'd be great. LOV might want to correct it.
csarven @csarven waves to @gatemezing
Scythesniper
@Scythesniper
Hello all. So I just stumbled across this place. can anyone explain or point me to an explanation of how Solid "decentralizes" the internet that has been taken over by Google/Amazon/Facebook etc. I'd really love to learn more, been into tech for about 20 years now
Matthias Evering
@ewingson
it' s a community-driven thang that seperates data from apps, providing storage on the NSS(Node Solid Server) and Web Identity Management. in the field of Linked Data we use kindof a lot RDF/Turtle and a good starting point is https://solidproject.org
we plan to use lotsof little sites (PODs and Apps) instead of the 3 Big Ones you mentioned
Scythesniper
@Scythesniper
Thanks, I took a look at the site. However, I'm still a little confused. The vast majority of the internet is really not on any of those big 3 companies I mentioned. People that use the big tech platforms now do so because they are easy to use and some of them, even though they know their data is being abused and sold for profit that they get no part of, still use them anyway. How does Solid get people to stop using Google/Apple/Facebook/Twitter and all these other companies who are controlling information flow and selling users data to make them rich and keep us poor? How do we get people off Google's search engine, is there a search engine for solid data? How do we get people off Facebook so that they can control their own data and out of these echo chambers caused by them and other social media giants?
Scythesniper
@Scythesniper
I'll keep reading up on stuff, maybe I'll find answers to these questions, I was just hoping for a short general summary on how decentralization from the tech giants happens when people are so anchored to current mainstream platforms.
Mark Hughes (happybeing)
@theWebalyst
@Scythesniper these are questions which are difficult to answer because we can't know why or how people will migrate. You could have asked the same questions about many entrenched products, MySpace being one, Yahoo another. Existing platforms have inertia, but everything changes, and the thing we know is that there has to be a place for people to migrate to.
Scythesniper
@Scythesniper
I agree, however I'm not talking about getting people to move to a new platform per se. More like, is there a plan to get Solid integrated into existing platforms, without "flipping the whole table over"? Does it just come down to building apps that perform integration with those existing platforms?
Does that make sense? idk, maybe I'm just dumb lol
Scythesniper
@Scythesniper
Maybe an example would help: Say I've got my data on a pod and I have an app that performs the same functions as Facebook running on a device which is linked to the data in said pod. How would I engage with users who are still using actual Facebook, and how would they engage with me if I'm not using Facebook?
Dmitri Zagidulin
@dmitrizagidulin
@Scythesniper part of the answer is technological, and part political. the existing platforms that /allow/ integration - no problem, we can integrate with them.
and some, it’s just not possible
although Facebook won over MySpace by cross-posting to and integrating with MySpace, they have since lobbied US laws (and altered their own terms of service) to specifically forbid doing that.
so, as always, we do what we can :)
Scythesniper
@Scythesniper
That's disappointing 😞
Sarven Capadisli
@csarven
Dmitri Zagidulin
@dmitrizagidulin
@csarven I am (as does the Credible Web CG, of course). Unfortunately, it's an extremely hard (and mostly political / social) problem, not really technical.