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David

@scenaristeur

You can fix each file one by one, then refresh page to verify (version 0.1.138)

Alain Bourgeois

@bourgeoa

@scenaristeur popock is not only try to convert links (named nodes) containing solid-communitybut also text (literals). Is it on purpose ?

David

@scenaristeur

@bourgeoa I think 'yes', do you think literals don't have to be converted ?

Alain Bourgeois

@bourgeoa

@scenaristeur This was an internal debate with myself and I concluded that it was mostly text not link related. As an example it could be part of the history of solid.community. So I decided to only convert links in an automatic process. With popock you only make a proposal, so everyone can decide.

tsojcanth

@tsojcanth

just wondering how to fix it, but I lost permissions to both browse and edit a folder and now i'm stuck with the folder forever. how can I get the folder back or at least delete it?

Michiel de Jong

@michielbdejong

I don't think you can

Vincent

@Vinnl_gitlab

It depends on if the folder itself has permissions set on it. If there is no permissions file for the specific folder, then setting default permissions on its closest parent with a permissions file could help give back access.

tsojcanth

@tsojcanth

yeah the folder has an .acl

so I'm stuck with being ever unable to use that folder?

Vincent

@Vinnl_gitlab

Unless you have access to the server directly, I'm afraid so :/

Alain Bourgeois

@bourgeoa

@tsojcanth yes Vincent is right if your folder as no acl and that parent acl has not an acl:default.
If the folder as a bad acl you can :

ask the server admin if he is willing to delete the .acl or better to rename to .acl.txt (I used to do it on solid.community server)
or you can use solid-ide https://zeff-zucker.github.io/solid-ide
-- to zip and then export each folder contained in root. It will export content where you have access.
-- Then you can delete your pod and recreate it.
-- Import and unzip back.

This is a lengthy process.
I have on my planning to add to solid-ide a full pod export/zip.

tsojcanth

@tsojcanth

@bourgeoa is this behaviour by design or it's something that is going to change? from a usability perspective it's not great

Vincent

@Vinnl_gitlab

There are people working on proposals to allow at least the owner of the Pod to always regain access, IIRC.

Alain Bourgeois

@bourgeoa

@tsojcanth One limitation of the solid-ide solution is that on the bad folder all folder content is lost. Even if some can still be accessed.

Justin Bingham

@justinwb

@tsojcanth it will be changing

Tim Berners-Lee

@timbl

Yes. It will track who us the pod owner and allow them always control access. So you will be able to write protect a file still and even stop yourself reading it but you will always be able change that back.

At the moment the server doesn’t have a concept of a pod owner.

matrixbot

@matrixbot

aveltens Good to hear that. It is a source of great frustrating

Tim Berners-Lee

@timbl

Meanwhile you could ask an admin for the server to fix it for you.

Michiel de Jong

@michielbdejong

@tsojcanth I'll work on this in solid/node-solid-server#1489

Sarven Capadisli

@csarven

https://github.com/solid/specification/issues/197#issuecomment-699937520
https://github.com/solid/specification/issues/197#issuecomment-699942808
https://github.com/solid/specification/issues/153#issuecomment-624630022

mariadimou

@mariadimou

not sure in which forum to say that moving https://solidos.solid.community/ to https://solidos.solidcommunity.net with no re-direct or tomb-stone created broken links.
What is the benefit of this renaming?

Michiel de Jong

@michielbdejong

@mariadimou see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-solid/2020Oct/0020.html

mariadimou

@mariadimou

Oh Bedankt! Sorry...

Michiel de Jong

@michielbdejong

What's the relation between https://solid.github.io/authentication-panel/solid-oidc/ and https://solid.github.io/specification/webid-oidc/ ? Will one replace the other?

Alain Bourgeois

@bourgeoa

@mariadimou If you need to repair broken solid.community links, this could help you https://forum.solidproject.org/t/conversion-of-solid-community-links/3504

Sarven Capadisli

@csarven

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-solid/2020Oct/0032.html

/me facepalms "persistence of preservation" .. should be s/of/and

Justin Bingham

@justinwb

@michielbdejong the latter was a placeholder, and the former (https://solid.github.io/authentication-panel/solid-oidc/) is the actual draft of the solid-oidc (renamed from webid-oidc) specification. It’s currently going through some review iterations before it is submitted to solid/specification, at which point it will replace the placeholder. All feedback welcome on the draft! Issues and/or PRs welcome.

naturzukunft

@naturzukunft_gitlab

A very beautiful good morning for all those for whom it is morning!
Whats the best solid profile editor ?

naturzukunft

@naturzukunft_gitlab

And does anybody knows a app that builds a graph of friends?

Michiel de Jong

@michielbdejong

@naturzukunft_gitlab There is the Solid OS one you see when you visit your profile while logged in as yourself

Then there's the one that shipped with version 1 of Inrupt's React SDK: https://generator.inrupt.com/profile

And a few more, like https://profiles.veltens.org/. Search for 'profile' in https://solidproject.org/use-solid/apps

naturzukunft

@naturzukunft_gitlab

i found https://ohmypod.netlify.com/login seems to be a nice one. The standard one is in my opinion not really for none technical users.

Michiel de Jong

@michielbdejong

ah, yes! that one is listed under 'pod management'.

Re 'build a graph' you mean in data or visually? We worked on that in https://github.com/inrupt/friend-requests-exploration, but it got very clunky since we didn't find a very elegant way to do it in React, see https://github.com/inrupt/friend-requests-exploration/blob/master/src/services/usePersonTypeLists.ts#L46. We then tried to do it as a stream / generator in https://www.npmjs.com/package/solid-user-search but that work is on hold. I hope to find the time to resume that work in 2021, possibly in the context of https://darcy.is/. But at the moment you're probably best off writing some code for that yourself. If you want we can discuss it in https://gitter.im/solid/app-development . Or in https://gitter.im/solid-germany/community if you prefer to chat in German! :)

elf Pavlik

@elf-pavlik

does anyone here work with python? bikeshed uses pygments for syntax highlighting and they have issue in turtle syntax. Not working myself with python I was still able to put together a commit which may fix the issue but would prefer if someone working with python took a look at it before making PR. I have that commit linked in issue describing the problem with highlighting prefix names with reference starting with number https://github.com/pygments/pygments/issues/1553#issuecomment-707281217

matrixbot

@matrixbot

spoggy > And does anybody knows a app that builds a graph of friends?

naturzukunft (Gitter) the graph on this page https://scenaristeur.github.io/solid-vue-panes/semapps can show your friends and their topic interests if they have use extended profile https://scenaristeur.github.io/solid-vue-panes/profile

spoggy posted an image:

Tim Berners-Lee

@timbl

@scenaristeur By a graph of friends, is a list enough or do you want an actual SVG graph?

Sarven Capadisli

@csarven

dokieli has a built-in interactive graph viewer. User can traverse resources by clicking on them - it will dynamically fetch and update SVG graph.
Example using a URI: https://dokie.li/?graph=https://csarven.ca/contacts -- find and click on the same URI in the graph to expand.
Alternatively: go to https://csarven.ca/contacts . open dokieli menu. click on Graph

I have my contacts as a separate resource so I can access control it - it describes my WebID https://csarven.ca/#i .

Discovery can also start from my WebID: https://dokie.li/?graph=https://csarven.ca/%23i .. find https://csarven.ca/contacts from the graph (on bottom-left for me) and click on it..

Another example: https://csarven.ca/linked-research-decentralised-web .. fetch coffee because there are a lot of triples and the d3js needs to do its thing. If anyone is a d3.js samurai level 12, PR to improve this would be much welcome.

Oh, this can be done any dokieli instance.. not only from dokie.li

Client-side.

Also works as a browser extension. So, you can see the RDF graph of any document encoding an RDF graph.

Well, within the limits of supported RDF parsers in dokieli :)

Sarven Capadisli

@csarven

There is a 3rd way to activate the graph viz.. via "Open"ning a URL from the dokieli menu. if fetched URL already has dokieli, it will try to open it up in a new tab.. but if it doesn't and doc is in HTML+RDFa, it will update DOM and inject dokieli. Then you can click Graph from the menu.

I need to update Open + Graph so that it can actually show non-RDFa docs. Right now it will grab Turtle and include it as a pre block.. (so it is human visible) but that's it. Graph doesn't look into that. Need a hint like type=text/turtle or something

Michiel de Jong

@michielbdejong

Second Solid-related webmonetization project has now been publicly announced \o/ keeping track here: https://github.com/solid/webmonetization