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Sharon Stratsianis
@SharonStrats
so i need to go to profile/card#me...
Jeff Zucker
@jeff-zucker
If you know how to fix that page, though, go for it
4 replies
yeah or I usually go to /public/
Sharon Stratsianis
@SharonStrats
I hadn't brought all the recent changes down, once I did that I no longer have the prefs errors as you mentioned. Only on that first login via the server html. Okay, so I have to feed my kids, but then I'll come back and start on the logout issue. If there is somewhere else you think I should start just let me know. I'll be about 30min I think
Sharon Stratsianis
@SharonStrats
Screen Shot 2021-09-18 at 10.42.28 am.png
I'm going to add to the ticket actually
Sharon Stratsianis
@SharonStrats
@jeff-zucker I'm documenting my findings in github, but currently I find that sharingPane doesn't ever call currentUser(). I'm doing to do some debugging, bc I'm not sure if it should or not, but other panes seem to call currentUser() in render. It seems like it should. However, it used to work right.. so seems weird that now it doesn't and before it did. Why would the new auth effect that? I'm not sure.
sharingPane is in solid-panes/src/sharing/sharingPane.js
Sharon Stratsianis
@SharonStrats
My findings are documented here solid/solidos#38. The sharing pane seems to be different locally versus on solidcommunity.net. @jeff-zucker @jaxoncreed @bourgeoa. Based on your feedback I will continue tomorrow morning my time testing or seeing if I can find anything further to help.
Sharon Stratsianis
@SharonStrats
@timbl @theRealImy @jeff-zucker @bourgeoa @jaxoncreed can you guys meet PST Monday 9am, CET Monday 6pm, BST Monday 5pm this is the first during the week time that would be possible. It will be 2am for me so I can't promise for sure I will make it, but I will do my best. I will make sure I have documented anything I find just in case.
Timea
@theRealImy
would be OK for me.
Timea
@theRealImy
@SharonStrats this meeting you propose for Monday, is that for the auth issues or ...
Sharon Stratsianis
@SharonStrats
yeah it seems like we should meet, but maybe 🤔 not... up to everyone. that is just the first time that would be possible.
Jeff Zucker
@jeff-zucker
I can meet, but seems like it should be up to @jaxoncreed when to meet - if he can use our help or has things to report, that's the time to meet
Tim Berners-Lee
@timbl
jaxoncreed
@jaxoncreed
Hey all, If needed I could attend a meeting but I won’t have much to report. Once I get access to the test server to see why there are problems only in production I’ll be able to debug it and then report.
Timea
@theRealImy
In tomorrow's meeting I would like to talk about the documentation topic, if we have time.
Thank you for contributing thus far, in case there are additional ideas pls add in the discussion: https://github.com/solid/solidos/discussions/49
Timea
@theRealImy
To have an overview I made again a diagram about what documentation part is now connected to what: https://miro.com/app/board/o9J_lvx4BGo=/
Timea
@theRealImy
Solid documentation user experience(4).jpg
ok, i needed to update it
One immediate observation: the userguide is not connected to SolidOS.
Jeff Zucker
@jeff-zucker
Sorry, I won't be able to make the meeting. I also can not keep up with the midnight schedule anymore. I can meet between 7am and 9pm Pacific Daylight Time. If that doesn't work, I'll just have to miss the meetings.
jaxoncreed
@jaxoncreed
Hey all, I’m waiting for Justin to see my email to get access to the test server. Once I get that I’ll be able to figure out the deploy problem.
That’s my update
Alain Bourgeois
@bourgeoa
Noel De Martin
@NoelDeMartin
Timea
@theRealImy
Meeting minutes 22.09:
  • auth-upgrade - ongoing. There are still problems on the test server which is set up with multi-user. Jackson is to keep at it after getting access to the test server. Everything reported on solid/solidos#38
  • NEW team meeting time: 18:00 CET every Wednesday! If anyone wants a Google calendar invite let Timea know. (Hoping @ewingson can join now too and @jeff-zucker and @jaxoncreed and @lamillr and anyone else who wants) - we are going to give it a try and if it works also after the time changes (winter time) we will keep it till March.
  • documentation was discussed. Thank you for contributing to the discussion over at https://github.com/solid/solidos/discussions/49!
  • We feedbacked the docu diagram, particularly what is missing is: forum and Google SEO (for solidOS).
  • We discussed the idea of having landing pages on the solidproject.org for Data Kitchen and SolidOS - targeted at users. The Data Kitchen and SolidOS GitHub readmes should be landing pages for developers. In both cases, the emphasis should be on the aspirations we have for these projects and invite, through links, people to help.
  • regarding the content itself: there should be a standard set of links that we put on TOP (and maybe at the bottom again) of all documentation places to catch people's attention and point them faster around.
  • regarding presenting documentation, MDN (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/) and the Inrupt dev docus (https://docs.inrupt.com/) we mentioned as examples. This will be further discussed in the next team meetings.
    TODOs:
  • Timea to change team meeting time on https://solidos.solidcommunity.net/
  • Timea to ping Justin to get Jackson access to test server faster
  • people involved in solidproject.org to bring up the landing page idea for Data Kitchen and SolidOS. See what the team there thinks about it?
  • if anyone sees something they want to improve in the docu please go ahead. For example:
  • on gitter solidOs change the channel description to point to solidOS gitHub instead of solid gitHub
  • write a description under the solidos repo in gitHub
  • come up with a set of standard links we should post in all docus
  • work on landing page content both for users and for developers
  • update solidOS user guide
  • link solidOS userguide to its GitHub readme (at least)
Sharon Stratsianis
@SharonStrats
That's a lot of meeting notes 😍🙏🏼 @theRealImy
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Matthias Evering
@ewingson
good overview @theRealImy . and the diagram was fine, too. will be able to join today (if you don't mind me I'm mostly junior/observer ;-) Sharon has passed the baby programmer role over to me....)
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Alain Bourgeois
@bourgeoa
@theRealImy I added a link to user guide in https://github.com/solid/solidcommunity.net
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Tim Berners-Lee
@timbl
Maybe "Working with SolidOS? -> “DevelopingSolidOS” to avoid users hoping it will help them?
Alain Bourgeois
@bourgeoa
Thanks good point
Tim Berners-Lee
@timbl
Why not fold that information into the README ?
Is it clear what belongs in which?
Alain Bourgeois
@bourgeoa
Not clear I agree. It is just a quick response to questions.
Timea
@theRealImy
What would be a nice short description of SolidOS put under the reporistory name in GitHub?
Data kitchen has "The SolidOS Databrowser technology as a stand-alone electron app"
The audience is developers.
Matthias Evering
@ewingson
"The Default-App (Operating System) running on the Solid-Pod-Website functional as Databrowser" ??? (just a quick guess...)
Timea
@theRealImy
I just started a discussion towards the rewriting of the SolidOS readme: https://github.com/solid/solidos/discussions/63
I invite you to debate the points there or to simply point out what is missing.
bblfish
@bblfish:matrix.org
[m]
Hi, I want to use a JS RDF lib for my work. What is the "best" one now? (I have been out of the loop for a long time working on a PhD)
bblfish
@bblfish:matrix.org
[m]
I guess it is rdflib.js as folks are using it here, but perhaps there is a new contender and the community is moving over to that or perhaps not, or perhaps something else one should consider? Or perhaps there is a forum where these things are discussed :-)
Tim Berners-Lee
@timbl
Here we use rdflib.js and can’t really use anythingh else as it has much highe level functions of loading stuff from the data web and managing streams of upsteam and downstream changes to a resource.
The Fetcher and the UpdateManager. So here you won’t real;y find discussions of alternatives. There aer cerianly discsssions of the low levell interfaces, and standaizing those so you can swap out your back end, but net we didn’t want o have to give up the high level stuff in rdflib.js
bblfish
@bblfish:matrix.org
[m]
Ok, thanks that is very helpful.
I want see if I can map rdflib to Scala 3 interfaces that works with my PR on banana-rdf banana-rdf/banana-rdf#370
We have Jena and Sesame RDF integrations, so if another JS lib comes up, it should not be a problem to add that too .
Timea
@theRealImy
I have a question regarding the session Store which is a LiveStore from the pane-registry, as it seems.
Situation:
I delete something in the session store in one pane but in another pane, which also makes use of the same session store (theoretically, I hope) the statement is still there. What am I doing wrong?
Timea
@theRealImy
Edit: the session Store is a IndexedFormula from rdflib in both panes
Jeff Zucker
@jeff-zucker
@theRealImy - are either of the panes inside an iframe and/or opened with an http link rather than a gotoSubject link? Are you using the new auth or the old?
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Tim Berners-Lee
@timbl
Did you want to change the data in the pod or the data in the LiveStore or both?