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Sharon Stratsianis
@SharonStrats
@bourgeoa I was wondering if we implement the refresh scenario for auth. Do you know does this happen in mashlib repo right? Because the frontend would handle continuously asking the back in for a new token.
@timbl are you leaning toward a particular solution?
Sharon Stratsianis
@SharonStrats
the second one am I right that the state might be quite complex unless I'm missing something perhaps
10 replies
Tim Berners-Lee
@timbl
When it comes to the lifetime of the toke, lets not change anything unil the auth is working again.
Jeff Zucker
@jeff-zucker
I second that approach - the auth-upgrade is really critical to everything in the future so l am in favor of all hands on deck to get it working and deal with other issues later. The login/logout is the most critical so if you have any ideas there ... Alain could use help, I presume, with the build process, especially for panes ... I've tried a little, but AFAIK no one is testing with the stand-alone browse.html (web app but not served as part of a server) ... less critically, I could use more eyes on Data Kitchen's handling of the various panes.
4 replies
Matthias Evering
@ewingson
@jeff-zucker shall I install the 1.7.5-alpha-d9bd19aa on solidweb.me and test ? originally I intended to wait for the 1.7.5 production. but case I can help I will for sure ...
Jeff Zucker
@jeff-zucker
@ewingson - that won't help at his point since CSS and ESS work fine, the problem is NSS.
Matthias Evering
@ewingson
k
Sharon Stratsianis
@SharonStrats
Screen Shot 2021-09-18 at 6.13.32 am.png
I also have the prefs error
i will start here
Jeff Zucker
@jeff-zucker
Which context (solidcommunity:8443, data-kitchen, or browse.html?) Were you logged in when you got that, if not, that is expected?
Sharon Stratsianis
@SharonStrats
I actually got it in two different ways. So when I login from the server side (as discussed in this ticket solid/solidos#57) i get what is shown there in this screen shot.
Then I am shown the login button again from mashlib and when I click it it acts like everything went fine, however it ends up giving me a pop up saying the same thing
that prefs can't be reached
does this sounds correct?
Jeff Zucker
@jeff-zucker
That is a problem with that page, do not login there, go to your own pod and login using one of the new auth buttons ... the problems on the root index are not related to other login problems and have a known fix
the old login buttons are hard-coded in that index page so do NOT represent the new login flow
Sharon Stratsianis
@SharonStrats
aww ok
so i need to go to profile/card#me...
Jeff Zucker
@jeff-zucker
If you know how to fix that page, though, go for it
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yeah or I usually go to /public/
Sharon Stratsianis
@SharonStrats
I hadn't brought all the recent changes down, once I did that I no longer have the prefs errors as you mentioned. Only on that first login via the server html. Okay, so I have to feed my kids, but then I'll come back and start on the logout issue. If there is somewhere else you think I should start just let me know. I'll be about 30min I think
Sharon Stratsianis
@SharonStrats
Screen Shot 2021-09-18 at 10.42.28 am.png
I'm going to add to the ticket actually
Sharon Stratsianis
@SharonStrats
@jeff-zucker I'm documenting my findings in github, but currently I find that sharingPane doesn't ever call currentUser(). I'm doing to do some debugging, bc I'm not sure if it should or not, but other panes seem to call currentUser() in render. It seems like it should. However, it used to work right.. so seems weird that now it doesn't and before it did. Why would the new auth effect that? I'm not sure.
sharingPane is in solid-panes/src/sharing/sharingPane.js
Sharon Stratsianis
@SharonStrats
My findings are documented here solid/solidos#38. The sharing pane seems to be different locally versus on solidcommunity.net. @jeff-zucker @jaxoncreed @bourgeoa. Based on your feedback I will continue tomorrow morning my time testing or seeing if I can find anything further to help.
Sharon Stratsianis
@SharonStrats
@timbl @theRealImy @jeff-zucker @bourgeoa @jaxoncreed can you guys meet PST Monday 9am, CET Monday 6pm, BST Monday 5pm this is the first during the week time that would be possible. It will be 2am for me so I can't promise for sure I will make it, but I will do my best. I will make sure I have documented anything I find just in case.
Timea
@theRealImy
would be OK for me.
Timea
@theRealImy
@SharonStrats this meeting you propose for Monday, is that for the auth issues or ...
Sharon Stratsianis
@SharonStrats
yeah it seems like we should meet, but maybe 🤔 not... up to everyone. that is just the first time that would be possible.
Jeff Zucker
@jeff-zucker
I can meet, but seems like it should be up to @jaxoncreed when to meet - if he can use our help or has things to report, that's the time to meet
Tim Berners-Lee
@timbl
jaxoncreed
@jaxoncreed
Hey all, If needed I could attend a meeting but I won’t have much to report. Once I get access to the test server to see why there are problems only in production I’ll be able to debug it and then report.
Timea
@theRealImy
In tomorrow's meeting I would like to talk about the documentation topic, if we have time.
Thank you for contributing thus far, in case there are additional ideas pls add in the discussion: https://github.com/solid/solidos/discussions/49
Timea
@theRealImy
To have an overview I made again a diagram about what documentation part is now connected to what: https://miro.com/app/board/o9J_lvx4BGo=/
Timea
@theRealImy
Solid documentation user experience(4).jpg
ok, i needed to update it
One immediate observation: the userguide is not connected to SolidOS.
Jeff Zucker
@jeff-zucker
Sorry, I won't be able to make the meeting. I also can not keep up with the midnight schedule anymore. I can meet between 7am and 9pm Pacific Daylight Time. If that doesn't work, I'll just have to miss the meetings.
jaxoncreed
@jaxoncreed
Hey all, I’m waiting for Justin to see my email to get access to the test server. Once I get that I’ll be able to figure out the deploy problem.
That’s my update
Alain Bourgeois
@bourgeoa
Noel De Martin
@NoelDeMartin
Timea
@theRealImy
Meeting minutes 22.09:
  • auth-upgrade - ongoing. There are still problems on the test server which is set up with multi-user. Jackson is to keep at it after getting access to the test server. Everything reported on solid/solidos#38
  • NEW team meeting time: 18:00 CET every Wednesday! If anyone wants a Google calendar invite let Timea know. (Hoping @ewingson can join now too and @jeff-zucker and @jaxoncreed and @lamillr and anyone else who wants) - we are going to give it a try and if it works also after the time changes (winter time) we will keep it till March.
  • documentation was discussed. Thank you for contributing to the discussion over at https://github.com/solid/solidos/discussions/49!
  • We feedbacked the docu diagram, particularly what is missing is: forum and Google SEO (for solidOS).
  • We discussed the idea of having landing pages on the solidproject.org for Data Kitchen and SolidOS - targeted at users. The Data Kitchen and SolidOS GitHub readmes should be landing pages for developers. In both cases, the emphasis should be on the aspirations we have for these projects and invite, through links, people to help.
  • regarding the content itself: there should be a standard set of links that we put on TOP (and maybe at the bottom again) of all documentation places to catch people's attention and point them faster around.
  • regarding presenting documentation, MDN (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/) and the Inrupt dev docus (https://docs.inrupt.com/) we mentioned as examples. This will be further discussed in the next team meetings.
    TODOs:
  • Timea to change team meeting time on https://solidos.solidcommunity.net/
  • Timea to ping Justin to get Jackson access to test server faster
  • people involved in solidproject.org to bring up the landing page idea for Data Kitchen and SolidOS. See what the team there thinks about it?
  • if anyone sees something they want to improve in the docu please go ahead. For example:
  • on gitter solidOs change the channel description to point to solidOS gitHub instead of solid gitHub
  • write a description under the solidos repo in gitHub
  • come up with a set of standard links we should post in all docus
  • work on landing page content both for users and for developers
  • update solidOS user guide
  • link solidOS userguide to its GitHub readme (at least)
Sharon Stratsianis
@SharonStrats
That's a lot of meeting notes 😍🙏🏼 @theRealImy
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Matthias Evering
@ewingson
good overview @theRealImy . and the diagram was fine, too. will be able to join today (if you don't mind me I'm mostly junior/observer ;-) Sharon has passed the baby programmer role over to me....)
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