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24th
Jan 2018
Eduardo Jimenez
@edujime79_twitter
Jan 24 2018 14:52
Gracias muchachos por su esfuerzo! me encanta el IDE. Saludos desde Bogotá
Carlos Cordoba
@ccordoba12
Jan 24 2018 14:55
Hola @edujime79_twitter!Muchas gracias por el mensaje! Varios de nosotros también estamos viviendo en Bogotá ;-)
Gonzalo Peña-Castellanos
@goanpeca
Jan 24 2018 15:01
Si varios.. los aburridos XD
Carlos Cordoba
@ccordoba12
Jan 24 2018 15:07
Jeje, los cool parce!
Gonzalo Peña-Castellanos
@goanpeca
Jan 24 2018 15:07
jeje
jacobtodd91
@jacobtodd91
Jan 24 2018 15:40
Is it possible to run the Spyder IDE without first installing either Anaconda or Python XY?
Gonzalo Peña-Castellanos
@goanpeca
Jan 24 2018 15:44

Is it possible to run the Spyder IDE without first installing either Anaconda or Python XY?

It is, but either one of those distros would make your life so much easier

Any reason for not using them ?
Carlos Cordoba
@ccordoba12
Jan 24 2018 15:46
Yes, but we don't support any custom installation methods (including PythonXY and WinPython). They are supposed to be used only by experts or very knowledgeable people of the scientific python ecosystem, not by beginners.
Gonzalo Peña-Castellanos
@goanpeca
Jan 24 2018 15:47
@jacobtodd91 if it related to space/size, you could install miniconda, and then install spyder
Carlos Cordoba
@ccordoba12
Jan 24 2018 15:47
So if you're thinking of not using Anaconda, please don't ask us for help. Sorry, but we don't have the resources to support anything else
jacobtodd91
@jacobtodd91
Jan 24 2018 15:50
My reason for not using them is because I already have an instance of python27 running, which was installed with ArcGIS for Desktop 10.5.1
I am also running QGIS 2.18 (which also wants to install python) my end goal is to have one installation of python that multiple applications can utilize
Gonzalo Peña-Castellanos
@goanpeca
Jan 24 2018 15:52
In that case I think it makes more sense to point ArcGIS to the python of Anaconda
than the other way around
Carlos Cordoba
@ccordoba12
Jan 24 2018 15:52
I see. The custom method is to install Python and then run pip install spyder. Unfortunately, that doesn't work with Python 2.7. I mean, it won't install the graphical libraries needed by Spyder, which are only available in Python 3
Gonzalo Peña-Castellanos
@goanpeca
Jan 24 2018 15:53
QGis install of python is probably isolated anyway, so I don;t think you can point to the anaconda one, but you should give it a go first
jacobtodd91
@jacobtodd91
Jan 24 2018 15:57
Gotcha that all makes sense. Thanks you all for the information. Other than spyder, is there a comparable IDE for Python 2.7?
Carlos Cordoba
@ccordoba12
Jan 24 2018 15:58
Not that I know of, sorry
CAM Gerlach
@CAM-Gerlach
Jan 24 2018 17:04
@jacobtodd91 I also have ArcGIS, the Python 2.7 that comes with it, and QGIS 2.18, and let me tell you it is 100% worth it to just install Anaconda/Miniconda if you want to make any serious use of scientific python + Spyder. Although I tried it for a bit too, there really isn't much benefit to sharing the same Python version, and a ton of downsides; while on the other hand there really isn't a reason not to just get Anaconda/Miniconda to install Spyder other than a few hundred mb worth of disk space, which is (literally) pennies by comparison to the years trying to get the latter to work will take off your life, heh. Plus, QGIS 3 due out soon will finally upgrade to Python 3, and Python 2 will (finally, after being superseded by over 10 years by Python 3) be formally end-of-lifed within the next two years, so any benefits won't be around for much longer.