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Oct 2018
CAM Gerlach
@CAM-Gerlach
Oct 19 2018 01:04
Great! I don't know of any IDE that has it built in to the GUI, although there might be one. Of the options, PyInstaller is probably your best best from what I've heard.
Foad Sojoodi Farimani
@fsfarimani_twitter
Oct 19 2018 08:00
Hello guys, If I may ask where I can ask for a feature? Or if I can send PRs for the documentation? My issue is very small. I was wondering if on the spyder installation page you could mention that spyder can be run using spyder3 command (on Windows at least) this took me some time to figure out.
Jitse Niesen
@jitseniesen
Oct 19 2018 08:22
@fsfarimani_twitter You can send PRs and feature requests on Github: https://github.com/spyder-ide/spyder/
Ituruka
@Stephlerituruka_twitter
Oct 19 2018 10:01
hello everyone!! i am new to this IDE . i need assistance on how to import packages and modules that are already installed. please note i used anaconda to install spyder. and now i am trying to access some default packages such as numpy
ZXxdiamondxx
@ZXxdiamondxx
Oct 19 2018 10:05
Hey, what documentation is there on using Spyder post pip install? I'd like to init an instance since I am post install.
Foad Sojoodi Farimani
@fsfarimani_twitter
Oct 19 2018 10:06
@ZXxdiamondxx this seems to be simillar to the issue I mentioned a couple of messages above. Are you one windows? then you need to open a new terminal and run spyder3
ZXxdiamondxx
@ZXxdiamondxx
Oct 19 2018 10:07
Also, would you forward additional documentation on the IDE? I require it for data modeling and science research . I had not noted an install package akin to a dmg as expected, and remain curious if the IDE is ran via a web-browser such as iNotebook / Panadas, or has a GUI interface on the computer which to use.
CAM Gerlach
@CAM-Gerlach
Oct 19 2018 15:00
@fsfarimani_twitter You can open an issue or submit a PR for our documentation at spyder-ide/spyde-docs.
@ZXxdiamondxx As @fsfarimani_twitter mentioned, I believe the command to launch Spyder if installed via pip is spyder3.
Foad Sojoodi Farimani
@fsfarimani_twitter
Oct 19 2018 15:02
@jitseniesen and @CAM-Gerlach thanks. I decided not to open a new ticket. it is a minor peace of work but very improtan IMHO. It would be solved if anywhere in the instalation page mentioned Spyder (on Windows at least) should be ran by spyder3
Carlos Cordoba
@ccordoba12
Oct 19 2018 15:02
spyder3 for Python 3 and spyder for Python 2
@CAM-Gerlach, could you address @fsfarimani_twitter request? Thanks!
Foad Sojoodi Farimani
@fsfarimani_twitter
Oct 19 2018 15:05
@ccordoba12 I hope you don't mind me saying this but Spyder's issue template is a little bit scary. I wanted to open a new issue the long issue template scared me away :)
CAM Gerlach
@CAM-Gerlach
Oct 19 2018 15:06
@ZXxdiamondxx We used to offer a dmg, but it was difficult to maintain and would still need an external Qt library/binding, and since users need a distribution like Anaconda or WinPython, or at least a virtualenv with all their required data science Python packages anyway, offering it standalone doens't really pose as much of an advantage as it would otherwise.
@ccordoba12 Yeah, I can add a "Starting Spyder" section to either the install doc or the main doc page. I'll add an issue.
Foad Sojoodi Farimani
@fsfarimani_twitter
Oct 19 2018 15:07
@CAM-Gerlach there is a brew cask install spyder though
CAM Gerlach
@CAM-Gerlach
Oct 19 2018 15:10
@Stephlerituruka_twitter Hey, check out our guide on this matter.

anywhere in the instalation page mentioned Spyder (on Windows at least) should be ran by spyder3

@fsfarimani_twitter Just to note, this is only true for "expert" installs using pip. The vast majority of our Windows users install it via Anaconda or Miniconda, where it can be launched from the shortcut, Anaconda Navigator, or via the spyder command, while spyder3 will not work.

Foad Sojoodi Farimani
@fsfarimani_twitter
Oct 19 2018 15:13
@CAM-Gerlach So maybe mention this below the pip instlation section?
CAM Gerlach
@CAM-Gerlach
Oct 19 2018 15:15

@fsfarimani_twitter Yeah, sure. Thanks for pointing it out!

Also, would you forward additional documentation on the IDE?

Check out our documentation on our website.

remain curious if the IDE is ran via a web-browser such as iNotebook / Panadas, or has a GUI interface on the computer which to use.

@fsfarimani_twitter Spyder has a full native GUI like other proper IDEs, as you've probably already figured out.

Foad Sojoodi Farimani
@fsfarimani_twitter
Oct 19 2018 15:18
@CAM-Gerlach I googled pip install spyder and this is the first hit. maybe you can mention the Spyder3 thing there? P.S. and a side question, when there is pip why promoting Conda?
Carlos Cordoba
@ccordoba12
Oct 19 2018 15:18

there is a brew cask install spyder though

I'll remove our DMGs so this stops working. And I'll do that because we haven't been releasing DMGs for a long time

@fsfarimani_twitter, you're probably using a very old cask checkout because the Spyder cask was removed a long time ago: Homebrew/homebrew-cask#32934
CAM Gerlach
@CAM-Gerlach
Oct 19 2018 15:21

I hope you don't mind me saying this but Spyder's issue template is a little bit scary. I wanted to open a new issue the long issue template scared me away :)

@fsfarimani_twitter Thanks for the feedback. The Spyder issue template currently is designed for reporting bugs, which tend to comprise 95% of the reports we get and almost always are either duplicates, lack key details that would allow us to diagnose them, are user error, and/or could be fixed by the basic troubleshooting steps in our guide. However, Github recently introduced a way to make a separate template for issue reports and feature requests, which would be a far simpler proposition.

Also, you don't actually need to report a Spyder issue, but rather one with the docs, so go to the repo I linked rather than the one linked previously if you want to report that and the template should make much more sense :)

@ccordoba12 That site was frozen many years ago so we can't update those docs. We are going to get them removed them shortly, and have already done the preliminary work in spyder-ide/spyder-docs#39 to make that possible. The docs on our site, docs.spyder-ide.org, are the authoritative and up to date version.
Carlos Cordoba
@ccordoba12
Oct 19 2018 15:25
@CAM-Gerlach, given that ~95% of the tasks in spyder-ide/spyder-docs#39 are done, I think we should remove our old docs
CAM Gerlach
@CAM-Gerlach
Oct 19 2018 15:25

P.S. and a side question, when there is pip why promoting Conda?

@fsfarimani_twitter We offer both methods (as well as many other downstream ones) but a pip install is for experts only since there are many things that can go wrong locally specific to the users machines that we aren't really able to help us. conda makes all of that much easier. They don't fund us or anything, it just saves us a lot of time helping people over an over.

@ccordoba12 Yeah, I think its time. Too bad about Debian and Ubuntu but they've stopped responding many emails ago and those where the two we figured would be slow :)
Carlos Cordoba
@ccordoba12
Oct 19 2018 15:27
Ok, will do right away
CAM Gerlach
@CAM-Gerlach
Oct 19 2018 15:46
@ccordoba12 Thanks!
Carlos Cordoba
@ccordoba12
Oct 19 2018 15:49
@CAM-Gerlach, the old docs are (finally!) down
CAM Gerlach
@CAM-Gerlach
Oct 19 2018 15:54
@ccordoba12 :D