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Mar 2019
NOR SAADAH
@NORSAAD17152482_twitter
Mar 17 05:18
@naturesbeast i am new to spyder,how can i insert the same file in one file to make the file run?the another file is the data that will be insert in the command.
CAM Gerlach
@CAM-Gerlach
Mar 17 05:19
@NORSAAD17152482_twitter Sorry, I have no idea what you're trying to ask us here about Spyder. Can you try to explain it a different way?
NOR SAADAH
@NORSAAD17152482_twitter
Mar 17 05:20
how can i insert the first_names.txt folder in the same file?
CAM Gerlach
@CAM-Gerlach
Mar 17 05:21
@NORSAAD17152482_twitter Please edit your message to add triple backticks (``` ) s above and below the code sections, as otherwise (as you can see) it does not display properly and I will have to remove it.
NOR SAADAH
@NORSAAD17152482_twitter
Mar 17 05:24

with open('first_names.txt') as f:
student_name_list = f.read().splitlines()

for name in student_name_list:
print("G'day,",name)

for name in student_name_list:
print("G'day,",name)

CAM Gerlach
@CAM-Gerlach
Mar 17 05:24

how can i insert the first_names.txt folder in the same file?

Sorry, but that sounds like a general Python question, not anything related to Spyder IDE (the latter of which, of course, is the purpose of this chat room). I suggest asking that in a more appropriate place, like a beginner python help forum.

Of course, if you have questions about using the Spyder IDE, including features that are particularly helpful to beginners like yourself, feel free to ask them here.
lordcenzin
@lordcenzin
Mar 17 10:36
hi all, today i noticed you made available the beta version of spyder4. I was looking forward to try it and see what improved. Apart the issue with the menu not opening on click (solved here), I was now trying to revert back to spyder 3.3.3. But I am not able anymore. I am using pip3
lordcenzin
@lordcenzin
Mar 17 10:54
I think i messed up between packages installed with the package manager and those with pip...
Slanish
@Slanish
Mar 17 10:56
can i install spyder without anaconda
lordcenzin
@lordcenzin
Mar 17 12:09
@Slanish Hi, of course you can. if on linux, just use your package manager, search for spyder. You should be able to do it without many issues. by the way, since spyder has a lot of dependencies, here people suggest to install it through the conda environment
CAM Gerlach
@CAM-Gerlach
Mar 17 15:00

I think i messed up between packages installed with the package manager and those with pip...

@lordcenzin Thanks for letting us know. Yes, this is very likely to cause problems, and why we recommend using Anaconda/Miniconda over these installation methods unless you're an expert willing and able to solve these user-specific problems (as there isn't much we can do about them). However, we do maintain fully functional wheel-s and work closely with downstream distro package maintainers to accommodate those who may choose that approach.

CAM Gerlach
@CAM-Gerlach
Mar 17 15:10

can i install spyder without anaconda

@Slanish Yes; if you'd read our installation guide you'd have seen we offer numerous installation methods, including Anaconda, Miniconda, pip/wheel, WinPython, Fink/MacPorts/Homebrew, distro packages for most of the major Linux distributions, and running from source via Github. For a likely beginner like yourself, if you don't want the hefty bulk of an Anaconda install, Miniconda provides just the conda environment manager and nothing else extra, so you can simply install just Spyder rather than tens of gigabytes of other packages you don't need. You can then use that copy of Spyder to work with any Python installation/environment on your machine (or even remote machines), so long as it has spyder-kernels installed. If you'd rather use another Python install, just using standard pip and virtualenv/venv would be the most straightforward option, if you're an expert willing to fix things yourself if problems result.

CAM Gerlach
@CAM-Gerlach
Mar 17 15:24

just use your package manager, search for spyder

While we do work with downstream maintainers to try to improve this, we recommend avoiding distro-provided Spyder packages if possible, since many tend to be out of date , occasionally have extra bugs, and make dependency management much more complex and conflict-prone.

For example, despite numerous requests, the maintainers of our Debian and Ubuntu packages have been consistently anywhere from a few months to sometimes close to a year behind our current release, and their package metadata/information being much, much older, some dating back to the original release of Spyder nearly a decade ago, and the documentation pointed to being so old it no longer exists anymore. Furthermore, @lordcenzin 's issue itself had to do with a problem between distro- and pip-installed packages as they stated, which is the very sort of thing working within a conda environment will avoid. However, again, you are welcome to explore the other methods we provide; just understand you are doing so at your own risk. Best of luck!