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    Drasko DRASKOVIC
    @drasko
    @zsoltpardi Streembit uses Blockchain, right?
    Christopher Schwab
    @cschwab46
    Hello @drasko , we are using distributed hash table instead of a classic merkle tree to facilitate contact discovery and audit contacts. To open a garage door we don't need the bloated BTC blockchain or any other block generation. Having said that, as we speak we are wiring up a merkle tree to implement extended distributed ledger functions as well.
    Let me know if you have any other questions!
    Drasko DRASKOVIC
    @drasko
    @cschwab46 oh, I have a bunch of questions ;)
    Just that it is too late here where I am. I will post them tomorrow.
    I am analyzing Telehash, Adept and Ethereum in parallel
    trying to figure out where Bitsteem differs
    Christopher Schwab
    @cschwab46
    Sounds good, we are happy to answer any questions!
    Drasko DRASKOVIC
    @drasko
    @cschwab46 my questions were posted here today: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-ig/2016Aug/0032.html - putting them here for the reference
    @zsoltpardi answered a lot of them ;)
    Drasko DRASKOVIC
    @drasko
    @zsoltpardi @cschwab46 we said that distributed storage is needed as well (besides DHT). Would IPFS make sense here?
    Or is it overkill...
    Drasko DRASKOVIC
    @drasko
    Looks quite interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CMxDNuuAiQ
    T Z Pardi
    @zsoltpardi
    @drasko HI Drasko, yes, it seems very interesting. I think it worth to consider. I will check and read more about it, but do you think it is a distributed web? Thanks for your comments about the Readme. You are absolutely right, we will make it more clear.
    @drasko The Streembit Kademlia DHT supports different transports. I think it would be great to wire up IFPS, though the current TCP or UDP do offer a better performance.
    T Z Pardi
    @zsoltpardi
    @drasko Also, it is very interesting what the IFPS info says: "Each network node stores only content it is interested in, and some indexing information that helps figure out who is storing what." I wanted to propose this feature for Streembit a long time ago, it would be a very useful feature.
    Drasko DRASKOVIC
    @drasko
    @zsoltpardi IPFS has a strong community from what I see, and I know that Ethereum uses it. Now, is it a good fit for Streebit - I have no idea.
    I run into some criticism as well: https://medium.com/@bedeho/ipfs-why-i-m-not-yet-on-the-bandwagon-869508051e66#.2a421b950
    One more start-up I run into that deals with distributed storage: https://storj.io/
    Drasko DRASKOVIC
    @drasko
    Mostly came to it this way: https://github.com/NinjaDevelper/StorjTelehash
    T Z Pardi
    @zsoltpardi
    @drasko I know storj.io from their beginnings. They have started as a crypto currency. It's a great idea and project, but my understanding is it is more a distributed storage or file system. On the other hand Streembit facilitates connections and IoT device handling in a decentralized manner. The primary use cases of Storj and Streembit are very different, though the underlying implementations have some similarities. If we decide to support distributed the file system feature in Streembit then we can definitely use Storj.
    Drasko DRASKOVIC
    @drasko
    @zsoltpardi sure that - I am not saying that it has the same purpose as Streembit at all. I am just listing the projects I run into that go in this direction, so that we can maybe get some inspiration if they solved some problems well already.
    You told me that we need some kind of storage on gateways, that's why I was thinking about storage
    Drasko DRASKOVIC
    @drasko
    @zsoltpardi @jbauernberger I can see in the app log: 
    WS peer_send error: Error: 0x0110. Contact joachim is not connected to web socket, message is not routed
WS peer_send error: Error: 0x0110. Contact joachim is not connected to web socket, message is not routed
peer_send failed 81.140.206.203:8905. error: connect EHOSTUNREACH 81.140.206.203:8905
peer_send failed 81.140.206.203:8905. error: connect EHOSTUNREACH 81.140.206.203:8905
    Is there some kind of message persistence, will the message be routed later?
    Drasko DRASKOVIC
    @drasko
    @zsoltpardi how does Streembit does PUB/SUB?
    Can you point me to the code?
    Drasko DRASKOVIC
    @drasko
    @zsoltpardi interesing - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-quantum_cryptography
    Drasko DRASKOVIC
    @drasko
    @zsoltpardi I don't know how I run into this interesting video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKXe3HUG2l4
    In any case, I saw hash-like URIs
    remingidng me of IPFS
    T Z Pardi
    @zsoltpardi

    @drasko <<< how does Streembit does PUB/SUB >>> it's a bit complicated :-)

    The streembit-lib kadlib module manages the PUB/SUB
    https://github.com/streembit/streembitlib/tree/master/kadlib/lib

    From the UI standpoint the streembitui project at https://github.com/streembit/streembitui is the source. The particular file is https://github.com/streembit/streembitui/blob/master/assets/js/streembit/peercomm.js
    For instance the publish public key function is "module.publish_user". That tells the world and your contacts what is your public key.

    I suggest to run the SDK version of node-webkit and then push F12 to get the developer console and then you can debug the application. I will share my screen sometimes to explain the dev environment and we can go through on the project structure.

    Sorry Drasko for not noticing your message earlier, on time again.

    Drasko DRASKOVIC
    @drasko
    @zsoltpardi did you know about this: http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/65015/is-the-limited-elliptic-curve-support-in-rhel-centos-redhat-openssl-robust-enoug
    I am seeing problems with my go programs on CentOS like this: coreos/etcd-ca#22
    Drasko DRASKOVIC
    @drasko
    @zsoltpardi do you know about MaidSafe: https://maidsafe.net/