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Alejandro Catalina
@AlejandroCatalina
racket is scheme, both are cools
i'm gonna lunch, see you later
luxbock
@luxbock
Racket would be the easiest for me, it would be nice for writing scripts (faster start-up)
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
OCamel is a good candidate too
Really close to haskell, but avoid the IO burden for complex application, and allows simple imperative construction like loops, etc.
Alejandro Catalina
@AlejandroCatalina
yeah the thing about haskell is the monads
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
Haskell is mind changing, but goes a little bit to far into the concepts :P
Alejandro Catalina
@AlejandroCatalina
nice to learn, shit to use xd
yeah
it's really good for getting more depth knowlegde in functional programming
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
I stopped when I needed to start learning arrows to solve a prolbem
Alejandro Catalina
@AlejandroCatalina
i can't say i'm proficient, but i've played quite a bit
so i can't say much more , but i liked the experience
luxbock
@luxbock
the big benefit of knowing Haskell would be the ability to understand a lot more cool things smart people are talking about
Alejandro Catalina
@AlejandroCatalina
yeah
it's pretty good language
luxbock
@luxbock
there's lots of blog posts I run to that seem very interesting but I can't follow the code at all
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
It's because they are pushing concepts too far.
Alejandro Catalina
@AlejandroCatalina
that's what haskell does
merely academic
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
Like monoids -> monads -> arrow -> …? or category theory, etc.
Alejandro Catalina
@AlejandroCatalina
but really strong bulit
luxbock
@luxbock
Rust would be nice in getting more experience with low-level concepts, plus if I ever needed to write something really fast then that'd be a good choice
Alejandro Catalina
@AlejandroCatalina
built*
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
It's really a nice language for concepts, but it's not pragrmatic at all.
if you want to learn concepts, go fo it.
Alejandro Catalina
@AlejandroCatalina
it's not, definitely
i'd like to go further on clojure
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
If you want a language that's useful on everyday basis, don't go with this.
Alejandro Catalina
@AlejandroCatalina
i don't use it so i don't keep the practice
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
Same here.
Alejandro Catalina
@AlejandroCatalina
it's a shame but...
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
OCaml is a pretty good compromise, you should have a look at it :-)
luxbock
@luxbock
yeah I'd consider OCaml as a candidate as well
Alejandro Catalina
@AlejandroCatalina
i'll check ocaml too
it's another family
i love lispys
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
Not really, it's close to haskell, with less features but more pragmatism
Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
Personally I would like to learn both clojure and rust.
I've worked with Haskell before, it's fun but… meh.
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
Rust is interesting, but since I discovered Haskell I started to like functional programming
What's sad for me it's the OCaml community being small :/
As far as I saw, Rust looks a little bit too low level for my needs.
Moesasji
@moesasji
@StreakyCobra I assume you use mu4e: how do you load mu4e-contrib without slowing down every start of emacs?
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
@moesasji I stopped, I'm too much used to mutt keybindings for now, and I don't have time to remap all mu4e keymap for the bepo keyboard layout
And as I am using a daemon I'm not seeing startup time :P
Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
Low level sounds like fun to me at the moment.
I wonder if rust has MPI support.
luxbock
@luxbock
I wouldn't mind a small community, but if it were small I'd hope that it was at least growing fast, so that maybe in the future it would be big
I think that might be the case with Rust