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Alejandro Catalina
@AlejandroCatalina
that's what haskell does
merely academic
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
Like monoids -> monads -> arrow -> …? or category theory, etc.
Alejandro Catalina
@AlejandroCatalina
but really strong bulit
luxbock
@luxbock
Rust would be nice in getting more experience with low-level concepts, plus if I ever needed to write something really fast then that'd be a good choice
Alejandro Catalina
@AlejandroCatalina
built*
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
It's really a nice language for concepts, but it's not pragrmatic at all.
if you want to learn concepts, go fo it.
Alejandro Catalina
@AlejandroCatalina
it's not, definitely
i'd like to go further on clojure
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
If you want a language that's useful on everyday basis, don't go with this.
Alejandro Catalina
@AlejandroCatalina
i don't use it so i don't keep the practice
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
Same here.
Alejandro Catalina
@AlejandroCatalina
it's a shame but...
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
OCaml is a pretty good compromise, you should have a look at it :-)
luxbock
@luxbock
yeah I'd consider OCaml as a candidate as well
Alejandro Catalina
@AlejandroCatalina
i'll check ocaml too
it's another family
i love lispys
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
Not really, it's close to haskell, with less features but more pragmatism
Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
Personally I would like to learn both clojure and rust.
I've worked with Haskell before, it's fun but… meh.
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
Rust is interesting, but since I discovered Haskell I started to like functional programming
What's sad for me it's the OCaml community being small :/
As far as I saw, Rust looks a little bit too low level for my needs.
Moesasji
@moesasji
@StreakyCobra I assume you use mu4e: how do you load mu4e-contrib without slowing down every start of emacs?
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
@moesasji I stopped, I'm too much used to mutt keybindings for now, and I don't have time to remap all mu4e keymap for the bepo keyboard layout
And as I am using a daemon I'm not seeing startup time :P
Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
Low level sounds like fun to me at the moment.
I wonder if rust has MPI support.
luxbock
@luxbock
I wouldn't mind a small community, but if it were small I'd hope that it was at least growing fast, so that maybe in the future it would be big
I think that might be the case with Rust
Amos Bird
@amosbird
Hello! How can I use astyle in spacemacs to auto-format my code?
Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
We don't have astyle support.
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
@luxbock Rust seems the future of low level programming.
(From my point of view)
Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
I'm banking on learning rust for low level, clojure or julia for compiled/fast high-level and python for dynamic high-level
Moesasji
@moesasji

I want to move to org for todo-lists, which is why I'm using mu4e. The layer unfortunately is very bare. Even SPC still does confusing things.

Anyway lets rephrase the question: how to load an additional package such as mu4e-contrib in .spacemacs only when needed/used.

Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
I already know Python I guess.
@moesasji Have you read this? It goes into detail on how to get things to load when you want and not before.
Section 3 in particular.
Amos Bird
@amosbird
@TheBB Will astyle be supported? Or is there an equivalent package?
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
3.5 could be useful :-)
Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
@amosbird What language do you want to format?
Amos Bird
@amosbird
c++ and java
Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
You should use c styles then.
If you have the right style set you should be able to reformat a buffer with =ig. Hopefully.
Amos Bird
@amosbird
@TheBB Can I reuse my astylerc file?
Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
I don't know of any way to convert an astyle config file to an Emacs c-style.