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uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
OCaml is a pretty good compromise, you should have a look at it :-)
luxbock
@luxbock
yeah I'd consider OCaml as a candidate as well
Alejandro Catalina
@AlejandroCatalina
i'll check ocaml too
it's another family
i love lispys
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
Not really, it's close to haskell, with less features but more pragmatism
Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
Personally I would like to learn both clojure and rust.
I've worked with Haskell before, it's fun but… meh.
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
Rust is interesting, but since I discovered Haskell I started to like functional programming
What's sad for me it's the OCaml community being small :/
As far as I saw, Rust looks a little bit too low level for my needs.
Moesasji
@moesasji
@StreakyCobra I assume you use mu4e: how do you load mu4e-contrib without slowing down every start of emacs?
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
@moesasji I stopped, I'm too much used to mutt keybindings for now, and I don't have time to remap all mu4e keymap for the bepo keyboard layout
And as I am using a daemon I'm not seeing startup time :P
Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
Low level sounds like fun to me at the moment.
I wonder if rust has MPI support.
luxbock
@luxbock
I wouldn't mind a small community, but if it were small I'd hope that it was at least growing fast, so that maybe in the future it would be big
I think that might be the case with Rust
Amos Bird
@amosbird
Hello! How can I use astyle in spacemacs to auto-format my code?
Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
We don't have astyle support.
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
@luxbock Rust seems the future of low level programming.
(From my point of view)
Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
I'm banking on learning rust for low level, clojure or julia for compiled/fast high-level and python for dynamic high-level
Moesasji
@moesasji

I want to move to org for todo-lists, which is why I'm using mu4e. The layer unfortunately is very bare. Even SPC still does confusing things.

Anyway lets rephrase the question: how to load an additional package such as mu4e-contrib in .spacemacs only when needed/used.

Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
I already know Python I guess.
@moesasji Have you read this? It goes into detail on how to get things to load when you want and not before.
Section 3 in particular.
Amos Bird
@amosbird
@TheBB Will astyle be supported? Or is there an equivalent package?
uossoqnᗡ uǝıqɐℲ
@StreakyCobra
3.5 could be useful :-)
Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
@amosbird What language do you want to format?
Amos Bird
@amosbird
c++ and java
Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
You should use c styles then.
If you have the right style set you should be able to reformat a buffer with =ig. Hopefully.
Amos Bird
@amosbird
@TheBB Can I reuse my astylerc file?
Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
I don't know of any way to convert an astyle config file to an Emacs c-style.
If you want to use astyle maybe you are better off trying to find an Emacs package for it, or writing one yourself.
Aron Gabor
@ashnur
how do you see directory structure, open files and switch between open buffers? for example i have at least 6 index.js files in the same project because modules. usually i just loop over the opened buffers, but then suddenly instead of a js file, i get the documentation interface I opened yesterday and i just want to move forward, but then obviously the same shortcut key doesn't work anymore. I try to close the buffer, which then closes the whole frame or whatever that thing is which contains the buffer content. (i know it normally wouldn't but I have neotree open all the time), so then I remain with neotree where i select manually and open it. takes more than writing this huge question :)
luxbock
@luxbock
@ashnur I use SPC pf when navigating between files/buffers in a project usually
Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
@ashnur Yes, as @luxbock said, but there's also a nice trick called something like persistent action in helm. Let me see if I can find it.
luxbock
@luxbock
@TheBB I only discovered your videos yesterday and ended up binge watching through most of them when ill, nice job
Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
Thanks :-)
Moesasji
@moesasji
@TheBB: yes seen it, but that document is mostly is about layers. I'm configuring mu4e in dotspacemacs/user-config; using require 'mu4e-contrib in that function slows startup down noticeably and `use-package there doesn't work.
Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
@ashnur Okay I can't find it now, but there's a way to have helm "preview" the buffer you are about to switch to without closing the helm session.
luxbock
@luxbock
@TheBB I'd also really enjoy videos where you work on some thing using layers you are familiar with
Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
@luxbock Yeah I have several ideas. Just need time. :-/
@moesasji Why doesn't use-package work there?
Alejandro Catalina
@AlejandroCatalina
back here
Eivind Fonn
@TheBB
I have many uses of use-package in my config function.
luxbock
@luxbock
anyone else who's into work flow porn should check out http://www.parens-of-the-dead.com/