@/all past month has been spent mainly by @JAremko and me to rework the layer system. I did not find the results satisfying so we changed our strategy relying on a new model to distribute Spacemacs which allow us to get some incredible startup time, like 0,5sec to load 400 packages. We focused our effort on this because loading time is a very recurrent issue, especially since doom-emacs became popular. I’m reorganizing myself to better handle all the notifications from GitHub but this takes time that I cannot spent on the project directly. I may add new collaborators to help while we concentrate on the Spacemacs core improvements but there is no promise here as I keep the team small on purpose until we get the community portal which I don’t see happening before next year. Indeed it takes time but we are not a company with investors, we are just passionate people that do this on their free time. Tarsius the maintainer of Magit had to make big announces to get a minimal financial attention, even without Kickstarter he received far more than what I get for Spacemacs. In four years I got 15 days of my current salary :-) thank you for your patience and comprehension.
Robby O'Connor
@robbyoconnor
@syl20bnr what would need to happen for the community portal?
Ag Ibragimov
@agzam
@syl20bnr Thank you for everything. Many people indebted to you for this amazing project.
Robby O'Connor
@robbyoconnor
FYI if you wanna understand why I was so defensive, the above is why :point_up:
You may THINK it's dead, but it's not. It's okay if pull requests sit for a bit...learn patience.
Ag Ibragimov
@agzam
OSS projects rarely get patronage simply because hackers suck at doing marketing. I think though it is still possible.
Robby O'Connor
@robbyoconnor
Set your expectations approriately -- I'm fine if a PR sits for years. Heck they might need to be reworked.
Ag Ibragimov
@agzam
I know exactly why you're defensive, and as I said: "I agree with you 100%". However, if we want this project to succeed we all have to care about its image, its reputation. We need to think about "the marketing"
Ag Ibragimov
@agzam
@syl20bnr have you considered donation channels? Patreon maybe? I know, it's probably unrealistic to expect it t cover much of anything, besides it may feel like a rabbit hole of a liability.
Robby O'Connor
@robbyoconnor
@agzam yeah I highly doubt it will cover much
:point_up: April 3, 2018 1:15 AM@agzam I wasn't really interested in having that person in the community to be honest -- if they left - I wouldn't have shed a tear -- that kind of stuff is rather toxic to have around...I was at least receptive when people got me tone down. They were not.
Ag Ibragimov
@agzam
I know, I know... some people are just like that: you lie down so they can walk on you - they'd complain that you're not flat enough
Ag Ibragimov
@agzam
@robbyoconnor I still think we have to think about a structure to get Spacemacs funded or ideally backed by a few tech companies. It has grown and matured, it's ready.
Robby O'Connor
@robbyoconnor
I did have a look at doom-emacs but I like spacemacs and am not ready to give up
Things would have to get REALLY bad for me to jump ship
Robby O'Connor
@robbyoconnor
Spacemacs will survive -- nobody is gonna run away
524252836
@524252836
I tried spacemacs and using helm find file takes long time
any suggestions?
Carl Dong
@dongcarl
Hi. I'm trying to reset org-refile-history to nil, but set-variable says not found, wondering what I could do.
SPC h d v says it is defined
Ag Ibragimov
@agzam
@dongcarl org-refile-history is not defcustom it's defvar, you need to use setq to set it
Mandar Vaze
@mandarvaze
@syl20bnr You could also make announcement like Magit. I'm sure you'll find "backers". I know I would be happy to contribute (financially). I'm extremely thankful to you and other contributors for bringing us spacemacs (I was vimmer for 20 yrs before I "saw the light")
@agzam :+1:
524252836
@524252836
Hello , everyone. I am trying spacemacs, It is very good. But when I try to find files using helm-find-files, It takes long time to start. Next time started, it remains. I want to ask is there anything that I can do with it? Thanks.
Ag Ibragimov
@agzam
@524252836 nobody would be able to answer unless you describe it - we're not psychics here - are you on Linux, Mac, Windows, what version of Emacs you're using?
524252836
@524252836
Sorry for that. It's ubuntu 16.04, veriosn 24.5. It is a refresh new setup.
Ag Ibragimov
@agzam
now identify your problem - is it helm or find-file? Try executing M-x find-file directly, is it still slow?