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    Curt J. Sampson
    @0cjs
    @ragga Do you mind making sure that everything you've backed up has a copy in the akari.tlug.jp repo? (Or everything that reasonably belongs there. That includes config files related to any web services.) This will ensure a reasonably large group of responsible people have access to this information.
    Henri "Ragga" Servomaa
    @ragga
    @0cjs yeah, I'll go through them.
    Curt J. Sampson
    @0cjs
    Thanks!
    sssjjjnnn
    @sssjjjnnn
    The PHP code is missing some plugins, m17n and xmldb and maybe others
    Curt J. Sampson
    @0cjs
    Huh? Can you expand on that a bit?
    sssjjjnnn
    @sssjjjnnn
    This is what I noticed, there may be others:
    define (TLUG_INCLUDE_PATH, '/usr/local/apache/php-include/');
    require_once ('m17n.php');
    require_once(TLUG_INCLUDE_PATH . 'carrubbers/xmldb.php');
    Curt J. Sampson
    @0cjs
    Right, ok. So why would that make any difference? Seems to me "can't be run at all because no PHP interpreter" doesn't change if we add the plugins. :-)
    sssjjjnnn
    @sssjjjnnn
    They can't be generated dynamically, but they're mostly static and could be generated at build time
    Anyway, if we want a complete archive of the old stuff, they're missing
    Curt J. Sampson
    @0cjs
    Oh! What a great idea!
    And yeah, I guess it's easier to grab whatever versions are on the old server than to figure out what those versions were and get them from alternate locations. But I'm guessing it's too late because the server's gone? But I think someone has a backup?
    Curt J. Sampson
    @0cjs
    I restored building and running the test for the TLUG.Hello and TLUG.HelloTest modules. @sssjjjnnn, it looks as if you'd just accidentally commented-out/removed the code that built and ran that?
    Curt J. Sampson
    @0cjs
    Also, I wonder if it makes sense to rename Test to Build, both because most people will not be concerned that it's testing things (though of course it still would) and because it reduces the now-3 chars needed for tab completion since we added template/ back down to 2 chars.
    sssjjjnnn
    @sssjjjnnn
    What's TLUG.Hello? The build was getting kind of slow for me, so I didn't want any unnecessary stuff in there.
    I prefer "Build". Running tests always seemed part of the overall build process to me. So "Test" is a bit ambiguous as to whether it will also do a full build, or just run the test phase of the build.
    Curt J. Sampson
    @0cjs

    From the tlug/tlug.jp@8d857a7:

    TLUG.Hello and its test are simple tests originally added to demonsrate [sic] that the test framework actually works. It's an open question as to whether these are actually still needed, but they do serve as a handy, simple example and as something to tweak when playing around with Haskell.

    I'm open to ways to clarify this, which maybe even we should add as a comment to the files.
    I'm surprised it was slowing you down; is something wrong with the build that the dependency check (followed by not recompiling it) was slow? Or was that just a random change that you hoped would optimize things but didn't? :-)

    sssjjjnnn
    @sssjjjnnn
    I was in a hurry and just hoping it would help. The build is still a bit slow. I think there's enough stuff in there now to demonstrate that the test framework works, but they could be useful as a simple example
    sssjjjnnn
    @sssjjjnnn
    I'm normally not so sloppy, just been really busy with work and have been doing this TLUG stuff in a big rush
    Curt J. Sampson
    @0cjs
    No problem. Obviously we have some real-world constraints working against us here, but so long as we are doing the best we can within them, and know how to improve things when we get more time or whatever, it's the best that it can be.
    Anyway, my current thought on TLUG.Hello is to keep it because I think it makes a good place to start for non-Haskell developers wanting to start playing with our code here. But I'm open to counterarguments. I don't think that compilation speed is one, though, because it's a pretty small fraction of an initial compile and nearly infitesimal in subsequent compiles when it's not modified.
    sssjjjnnn
    @sssjjjnnn
    Okay, let's keep it then.
    Curt J. Sampson
    @0cjs
    @E14n_twitter Looks like you forgot to push the master branch when you made the site change. Your changes will vanish next time someone else commits a change unless you push that up.
    matrixbot
    @matrixbot
    KCinJP Anyone going to the オープンソースカンファレンス on the 21st (Fri) & 22nd (Sat) of this month?
    https://www.ospn.jp/osc2020-spring/
    KCinJP
    @KCinJP
    Kapper will be therebon Saturday. He has offered to present at TLUG someday.
    matrixbot
    @matrixbot
    KCinJP I take it this room is not bridged with IRC...
    KCinJP
    @KCinJP
    But is with Gitter!
    Curt J. Sampson
    @0cjs
    @matrixbot And what is "this room?"
    matrixbot
    @matrixbot

    KCinJP > <@gitter_c-j-s:matrix.org> @matrixbot And what is "this room?"

    Yeah, good question.

    KCinJP
    @KCinJP
    Test
    KCinJP
    @kcinjp:matrix.org
    [m]
    Curt J. Sampson
    @0cjs
    Ah! So matrixbot is gone, and good riddance!
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