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xgpt
@xgpt
that's just very cluttered to me?
Samuel
@swalladge:matrix.org
[m]
For example, you could do something like:
take a flight id:1
pack bag blocks:1 id:2
pack laptop blocks:2
print boarding pass blocks:1
book taxi blocks:1
xgpt
@xgpt
blocks?
id?
i see the key:value pair idea there
Samuel
@swalladge:matrix.org
[m]
The hard part is going to be finding software that will support what you want programmically.
If you want to track it manually by using @contexts or +tags, then yeah I guess it will be cluttered, and it may take some experimenting to get it to work for you
todo.txt is designed to be simple
Personally for the case you describe I'd use a mix of tools. "book a taxi" goes on the calendar, "pack bags" goes in todo.txt with a due date, "print boarding pass" also in todo.txt with a due date, "pack laptop in bag" goes in a checklist in my notes along with other things that need to be packed (this I will refer to when working on task "pack bags".
I rarely find a need to link tasks together.
xgpt
@xgpt
fair
I think I'm looking for a project management tool
real world scenario here is that I'm balancing like 8 building tasks at once
like i'm designing parts for people that are 3d printed, writing firmware for devices that i need to design and 3d print housings for, i need to test and debug that firmware once the hardware is built but before the final assembly and like...I'm actually a therapist by trade but somehow fell into this project management cycle and i have no idea how to organize myself better :P
also I'm a new dad and just running on like 75% sleep
so i'm missing small things
swalladge
@swalladge:matrix.org
[m]
feels like a bigger scope than todo.txt. Perhaps look into project management tools like jira, kanban boards, trello...?
or taskwarrior might be interesting for you if you like command line apps
xgpt
@xgpt
I keep seeing those things pop up. todo.txt seems fine enough but I'm actually using it to log what I've done.txt :)
morgangoat
@morgangoat

Hi folks,

For a few years I've been using todo.txt through lack on any decent alternatives, and I soon started working on a hobby project to make a todo.txt webserver. That spiralled out of control and I'd like to open it up to the world. I've got a stable beta server up-and-running with Dropbox API access to files. I'd love to get some feedback from anyone who'd like to take it for a spin? The server is at https://www.taskherd.com ... and is unlikely to eat your files (it's never eaten mine), though needless to say, take backups...

thanks,
Morgan

morgangoat
@morgangoat
Just to add: features include intelligent todo.txt cloud sync, automatic recurring task addition, extensive filter capabilities (by raw text, project/contact/tag, by date, etc), saved filters, print, append uploaded files, online configurable sort that doesn't alter your todo.txt tasks order, drag&drop task order reordering that doesn't alter your todo.txt tasks order, configurable automated archiving to done.txt, etc.
jason-mehmel
@jason-mehmel

Taskherd looks very cool! The only things I would offer would be:

-some 'back' buttons in a few of the areas. I tried to go the Dropbox file search route, didn't work for me, but couldn't go back and had to reload the page.
-note on the Dropbox option: it could only see a few folders; shared, public, and another one that I can't remember, but I couldn't see my whole dropbox folder list. Is that by design?
-I would also offer the ability to load files directly from the user's drive! That way I can have the folders in Dropbox or whatever other syncing option I'd like to use!

morgangoat
@morgangoat
Ah, good suggestions, 'back' arrows in particular. Will put it on the list. I'm not sure about the Dropbox Folders, I'll need to dig deeper and see (it may be a Dropbox API permissions thing that I haven't educated myself on). NOT by design! (although it will only show files with .txt extension).
morgangoat
@morgangoat
As for loading files, there's a little 'upload to cloud' icon second from left in the icons at the button to append tasks in the uploaded file to the user's current todo.txt. I think that's what you're looking for? I should make it a more obvious icon. Unfortunately in terms of syncing, taskherd can only access files hosted on Dropbox because the API interacts with files via Cloud (those files also happen to be synced to the user's drive... but taskherd isn't directly editing files on the user's drive, if that makes sense?). So you can upload from your drive, but you can't directly edit files on your drive.
Craig Maloney
@craigmaloney
morning
jason-mehmel
@jason-mehmel

Thanks for responding to my notes!

A few more notes :

With the cloud upload button, is that uploading it to the taskherd folder in my dropbox? Or is just uploading it to the memory in the browser? Ah, I just checked and I think it's loading it right into Dropbox.

When I opened Taskherd today to check on what you mentioned, it brought me back to either a)creating new folders or b) selecting within my Dropbox folders. I'd expected it to take me back to where I was yesterday.

Yesterday when I'd tested and couldn't get it to find my own folders, I created new folders and copied my own todo files into there; it seemed to work okay for my testing.

But if reloading the page brings me right back to the create new / find your files dialog, then it's a bad loop. Because I the taskherd folder created is just as unfindable for me as my original todo folder was.

At this point, the only way it's usable with my own files is to either:

(A)
1)choose the create new folder option
2)use the cloud upload button to load the file
3)edit as desired
4)repeat that loop every time I close the page.
(this also means it creates a new taskherd folder. I've got two folders with that name now, the third one is taskherd(2) )

(B) put my working todo files in a folder within the Public, Outgoing, or Shared Folders, because those are the only ones showing up. I just tried that and it's working...

At least two of those folders have shared links inside them, even though the folders themselves don't have shared links. I think Outgoing doesn't have anything in it, but it may have a special status.

This may not have been a problem with your own files because you were using your own higher levels of access.

So, until that permission issue is resolved, at least there's a way to access our pre-made list files; put them in a folder that is showing up.

But going back to the main note: I'd expected taskherd to 'remember' where it was getting files from when I reloaded the page. I'm not sure how to save that status. Otherwise our options are to leave the page open or re-do the loop each time.

I hope these notes make sense!

morgangoat
@morgangoat
Hey jason-mehmel, good points. I'm embarrassed to say the non-persistence of storing your file location config was a bug on my end, now fixed. So taskherd should now remember locations of your files when you next login. As for only seeing Public, Outgoing, or Shared Folders... let me look into that. I think you're correct that I probably have my own higher levels of access. Will get back to you!
jason-mehmel
@jason-mehmel
No problem! Glad to see you're receptive to the notes!
morgangoat
@morgangoat
jasom-mehmel... weird, I looked into this and can't see any mention of only displaying Public, Outgoing, or Shared Folders in the Dropbox API documentation. I also can't reproduce this using a different Dropbox account of my own. Is your Dropbox account a Business account, or similar? (I'd be surprised if this makes a different). Happy to take this off the forum if you'd like, email hello@taskherd.com.
jason-mehmel
@jason-mehmel

I'll send an email there!

The only thing I would encourage is some other todo.txt fans out there to try out Taskherd and see if this stuff is happening to you too!

ajevans80
@ajevans80
Have just installed todotxt-cli on ubuntu. Could anyone tell me a) where the config file would be stored, and b) how to point it towards a different todo.txt file so I can save one on a syncable folder please?
Craig Maloney
@craigmaloney
Mine is stored under .todo
erm, that's not helpful
I mean it's under my home directory under .todo (in my case that's /home/craig/.todo)
ajevans80
@ajevans80
Thanks, I don't have that directory. I have a .todo-txt directory which is where I thought it might be but none exists
Craig Maloney
@craigmaloney
in the default configuration there's an environment variable called TODO_DIR that you can set
adaschma
@adaschma:matrix.org
[m]
man todo-txt documents under -d CONFIG_FILE that ~/.todo-txt/config is the default config file
Craig Maloney
@craigmaloney
I also have an environment variable under my .bashrc that points to the config file.
.bashrc:export TODOTXT_CFG_FILE=/home/craig/.todo/todo.cfg
ajevans80
@ajevans80
Thanks but no such config directory exists, should I perhaps just create one there?
Craig Maloney
@craigmaloney
That might be a historical artifact
Yes. you should create that directory
adaschma
@adaschma:matrix.org
[m]
Looking at dpkg -L todotxt-cli there is one under /etc/todo-txt/config
ajevans80
@ajevans80

Looking at dpkg -L todotxt-cli there is one under /etc/todo-txt/config

Thank you, can see it now

Craig Maloney
@craigmaloney
You may want to make a local copy of that rather than editing the system-wide configuration
ajevans80
@ajevans80
Thank you both for your quick replies
Craig Maloney
@craigmaloney
also, run env | grep TODO to determine where the system thinks your config file is.
you might be fighting what a package maintainer has determined is the default :)
ajevans80
@ajevans80
Many thanks, got it all sorted now :)
Craig Maloney
@craigmaloney
Awesome. Glad it works now