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    Joakim Repomaa
    @repomaa
    alright
    Vlad Faust
    @vladfaust
    We're working on a language inspired by Crystal, which, apart from solving fundamental code issues Crystal has, would also aim for better ecosystem support. We hope this would solve the "not being maintained anymore" problem
    Joakim Repomaa
    @repomaa
    hm
    not sure a new language would fix that
    Vlad Faust
    @vladfaust
    would also aim for better ecosystem support
    Joakim Repomaa
    @repomaa
    that's something that can be fixed in crystal imho
    Vlad Faust
    @vladfaust
    Indeed, but this should be made by Manas :)
    Joakim Repomaa
    @repomaa
    why?
    Vlad Faust
    @vladfaust
    And they don't have interest in such actions
    Well, because it's their language and their ecosystem
    Joakim Repomaa
    @repomaa
    it's open source.
    it's not their ecosystem
    it's github
    or git*
    Vlad Faust
    @vladfaust
    I'll leave you with that
    Just take a note that I don't invest time in Crystal implementation of the framework
    No new features; supporting it, though
    Joakim Repomaa
    @repomaa
    ah good to know. I'll look elsewhere then :)
    Vlad Faust
    @vladfaust
    What are the alternatives?
    Joakim Repomaa
    @repomaa
    lucky
    Vlad Faust
    @vladfaust
    Yes
    Also Athena
    With Granite
    Joakim Repomaa
    @repomaa
    it's a tad too opinionated for my taste
    Vlad Faust
    @vladfaust
    PHP-inspired and lots of annotations :)
    Joakim Repomaa
    @repomaa
    lucky?
    Vlad Faust
    @vladfaust
    Athena
    Joakim Repomaa
    @repomaa
    k
    haven't looked at it
    usually i'm not looking for a web framework anyway
    just an orm
    Vlad Faust
    @vladfaust
    Well, Blacksmoke did put shitton of time into that
    AFAIK Granite took some things from Onyx::SQL regarding to low-level implementation
    Take a look into it or ask Blacksmoke
    Joakim Repomaa
    @repomaa
    is the query builder type safe?
    Vlad Faust
    @vladfaust
    In Onyx::SQL? Yes, almost -- https://docs.onyxframework.org/sql/query.html
    Joakim Repomaa
    @repomaa
    not onyx, i know it is, that's why i thought it's promising. i meant granite
    it doesn't look like it
    Vlad Faust
    @vladfaust
    Well, in my humble opinion, Onyx::SQL has the best type-safety and overall design among the others :D
    Joakim Repomaa
    @repomaa
    have you seen avram?
    Vlad Faust
    @vladfaust
    Yes, I've read it docs
    Joakim Repomaa
    @repomaa
    ok
    i think it's superb
    Vlad Faust
    @vladfaust
    You should definitely give it a try
    Joakim Repomaa
    @repomaa
    i have
    but only with the whole framework
    which is a bit overblown for most of my usecases
    Vlad Faust
    @vladfaust
    I'm sure it is possible to use avram separately
    Joakim Repomaa
    @repomaa
    yeah should be
    Vlad Faust
    @vladfaust
    BTW, you've said "Onyx has no support for txs", but that's not true. It does have it, I've managed to change repo's db to single tx even without those patches