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zakim-robot
@zakim-robot
[jitendra, a11y] which opens the same image in a modal windows
Mallory
@StommePoes
ok that's where they figured the alt must be the "link text" stating what the link is
though it would be nice if it could also say "opens larger image" (if it's larger, the point of permalink is to give a dedicated canonical URL for a resource)
zakim-robot
@zakim-robot
Mallory
@StommePoes
@stevefaulnker "Authors should reference a visible label with aria-labelledby if a visible label is present." <-- unless the visible label is a heading? Because I've been leaving it as <section><hx>mah heading</hx> stuf stuff stuff </section>
zakim-robot
@zakim-robot
[jitendra, a11y] slack shows direct link of the image too when we post here
Steve Faulkner
@stevefaulkner
@StommePoes <div role="main"> iA2 role = section, object attribute xml-roles:main
Mallory
@StommePoes
if I open the image "in a new tab" I do get the perma URL https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRXOWA9VEAQtrOw.png:large
@stevefaulkner so Orca needs to know the xml roles and present those (maybe the Master version already does)
Steve Faulkner
@stevefaulkner
reason for this is theres no platform (iA2 in this case) accessibility API role of main
so generic role is used in iA2 and specific role provided as object attribute in iA2
Mallory
@StommePoes
hm lemme see what the generic/specific roles for say a progressbar are
Steve Faulkner
@stevefaulkner
it recognises them as landmarks now right?
it just does not list the landmark role
Mallory
@StommePoes
yeah it says Landmarks found: 2
and you can cycle to next/prev landmarks on a page
Steve Faulkner
@stevefaulkner
right
Mallory
@StommePoes
progressbar is just the same in both, interesting
Steve Faulkner
@stevefaulkner
that is because there is a platform role progressbar
Mallory
@StommePoes
ah like checkbox, other native apps have these as well
So I'll ask on Orca list if main is recognised as main
I think when I pick up my windows box, since I'm actually useless in Windows, I'll throw a VirtualBox on it with a debian or whatever and just install the latest-bleeding-edge orca there
Then I can test new fixes too, yay
zakim-robot
@zakim-robot
[ccwilcox, a11y] @stevef: In your article's Pen, VoiceOver in Yosemite/Safari 9 say tests 1-5 as main and the last two are test 6, off, switch and test 7, off, switch
Michiel Bijl
@MichielBijl
Interesting
in iOS 9 those are tick boxes
Wonder why that is different.
Steve Faulkner
@stevefaulkner
@ccwilcox exellent thanks! so switch is implemented in OSX

Wonder why that is different.

iOS lags behind OSX

Michiel Bijl
@MichielBijl
Apparently so
powrsurg
@powrsurg
We have an audio element that is on one point on the page and an on-page transcript that is located elsewhere. Should we be using aria-describedby on the audio? Most of the examples I'm seeing for how to do accessible transcripts talk about the track element and using an external file
Steve Faulkner
@stevefaulkner
@ccwilcox have added your data
Carlos
@cmpscabral
Hi, sorry for the offtopic message - feel free to ban me if this is too offtopic: has any of you already seen an implementation of the cookie law (https://www.cookiechoices.org/) warning for an iOS app? I've implemented google's solution but I'd like to see other examples and I can't find any...
Steve Faulkner
@stevefaulkner
@cmpscabral no worries, but no haven't seen
Carlos
@cmpscabral
@stevefaulkner tks :)
Michiel Bijl
@MichielBijl
A project I'm working on only has variables for min-max combined mediaqueries
MichielBijl @MichielBijl ignores variables and uses normal values
Michiel Bijl
@MichielBijl
Why limit yourself to a predefined set of breakpoints…
Mallory
@StommePoes
easier to use?
zakim-robot
@zakim-robot
[Marcy Sutton, a11y] Does it seem reasonable to only provide focus management when a user is navigating with the keyboard? I am cringing at the thought of removing the feature on mouse click, but JavaScript developers complain a LOT.
[Marcy Sutton, a11y] Not to mention the focused elements they are complaining about are barely visible from a color contrast standpoint :rage:
Deborah Kaplan
@deborahgu
you mean, disable visible keyboard focus unless a keyboard click has been used?
zakim-robot
@zakim-robot
[Marcy Sutton, a11y] I mean for components like dialogs, sidenavs and bottom sheets where focus is sent into the component on open and returned on close. Mouse users are complaining that “buttons are focused wrongly"
[Marcy Sutton, a11y] (and I want to flip a table)
[Alice Boxhall, a11y] Sounds like pretty sound evidence for the modality concept to me
[Marcy Sutton, a11y] yup :simple_smile:
[Marcy Sutton, a11y] Button Focus Hell still going strong…sometimes i don’t recognize it as such
zakim-robot
@zakim-robot
[Alice Boxhall, a11y] Haha, it's a sneaky one
[Justin Stockton, a11y] @marcysutton: I’ve been using https://github.com/ten1seven/what-input to manage that on a few projects