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Ghost
@ghost~5b77b5ffd73408ce4fa4fd44
Hey @noSim and welcome! You can propose and discuss ideas here. If you're sure your proposal makes sense, then open an issue on github. Link images to profiles for example is a good idea so go ahead.
Obviously there is an UI/UX issue here, as it is possible to long-click on a message thread and then open the user profile.
To get an API key, ask @saemy.
Sämy
@saemy
Hi @noSim. Welcome to the project!
Your ideas sound like very nice improvements. Opening new issues is always a good idea to get started. I just submitted PR #348 with some code laying around for enlarging a user profile image. Maybe you could have a look at it, what do you think? If you have any questions feel free to ask here.
noSim
@noSim
@saemy this looks like a good task to get into the project. I will have a look.
Jean-François Beaulieu
@jeanfrancoisbeaulieu
If you submit an issue or PR I can comment there, but one another idea is to have a vertical elipsis menu in the chat window with 'show profile' or something like that.
noSim
@noSim
@jeanfrancoisbeaulieu despite I would consider clicking the profile image is more a hidden "power user" feature, I like your idea as well and would maybe even go with both options. Also because clicking the image is only possible in the overview. But I would prefer to simply put a profile icon in the top right corner instead of an elipsis menu. I would go for the elipsis menu only if you have 3+ items.
I will open an issue as soon as I get started and have looked a little bit into the code base.
Jean-François Beaulieu
@jeanfrancoisbeaulieu
Sounds like that would be good too. Let me know when you have the issue opened.
noSim
@noSim
Hey, I still have no API key, but I already looked into the code base. I also had an idea to improve the sidenav profile picture. Currently it is always loading the small image, but if Wifi is present or it is already cached, the large image could be loaded. I also uploaded a commit on my fork implementing this behavior ( noSim/wsandroid@1652537 ). But by now I could not test it, since I have no API key to build against the API. Is it okay if I open a pull request despite, no testing yet from my side? ( I might also add a test to check my code)
Sämy
@saemy
You can just open a PR, yes.
Isaiah Mathieu
@isaiahmathieu
Hello, I would like to contribute to the project. Can someone send me an api user id and api key so that I can build the projects? thank you.
Sämy
@saemy
Hi @isaiahmathieu. Welcome to the project!
I'll look into getting you a key. I cannot issue them but am going to reach out to the board. Please, PM me your Warmshowers userId? (It is the number in the url of your profile page on warmshowers.org). It might take a while to get your key.
Do you already have some ideas what you would like to work on? :)
Isaiah Mathieu
@isaiahmathieu
ok i'll send a PM. I just want to work on bug fixes for now and other small improvements. I was hosted by warm showers hosts a lot this past summer so I want to give back to the community.
thanks!
Ghost
@ghost~5b77b5ffd73408ce4fa4fd44
Anyone heard about the Request For Proposals (RFP) for the development of an Android and iOS app? https://www.warmshowers.org/node/348729
Interesting document. The next app will not be free, and there are some requirements which would also need changes on the backend. The application was open for just 10 days and closed yesterday. That is not a lot of time, especially right before Christmas.
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Jean-François Beaulieu
@jeanfrancoisbeaulieu
I haven't heard about this, but it is pretty significant. Pretty much seals it for me for WS. Sad to hear.
Maria Kozinska
@mariha
Hi guys,
Maria Kozinska
@mariha
I am new here, I’ve found this chat while I was researching for WS in last days. Me and my husband Szymon are members of the WS community for a few years. We are also professional software engineers (Szymon - Android, me - backend java).
About 3 years ago we offered our help in improving the app as volunteers, didn’t get any response though.
Maria Kozinska
@mariha
A month ago I happened to read the newsletter to the very end and see the request for proposal. We drafted a design and answered to the REP, offering to develop and maintain the apps and new server side pro publicity bono. We also mentioned that it would be great to run it as an open source project as we are sure other members of the community are willing to help.
So far didn’t get an answer though, so was thinking if you know anything what’s happening?
I am freaked out by the fact that such an enormous community may stop existing because of some dumb technical issues.
Sämy
@saemy

Hi @mariha, welcome to the WSAndroid chat.
Where should I start..? Well, great that you applied for the RFP and even greater that you are willing to provide a solution that keeps the apps open source! We - the volunteers that maintain the android app - are obviously in favor of that path forward. In fact, we advised the board many times in the past to keep their source open - even if they decide to work together with paid software developers that ensure that progress is made, bugs are fixed, ... Personally, I'd be very happy to see an applicant like you getting the concession.
Unfortunately, the communication of the board has always been quite sparse and turned to almost non-existing in the past years. Therefore, I was not surprised to find a topic as important as the late request for proposal at the very end of a newsletter convoluted with another donation success story. So no, I unfortunately don't know anything about the progress of the RFP - the last I heard from the board was a notice one day before they sent out the newsletter to everyone. I suggest that you directly ask them about the progress (and maybe keep us posted? :wink:)

All of that said, the current wsandroid project is not dead (yet). And I guess it won't be until mid to end of this year. There are still cyclists on the road and we are still happy to provide the community with a nice and working app. So 3 years after your initial offer for help: Yes, we are in need of volunteers and would be very happy to welcome you aboard. Look at the readme on the Github page for how to get a developer certificate and how to build the app. Then we can chat here about any bugs/features you want to work on. If you need help I am here to help you. Thank you.

Maria Kozinska
@mariha
just fyi, I haven't heard from the board/tech committee anything so far. A month after applying for the RFP I got a message from Tahverlee that she is moving the conversation to her account, a few days later I followed up asking for updates, I am still waiting for the answer...
Kenny Sexton
@kennysexton

Hey there. WS user and Android dev. I was quite confused when I came across the WarmShowers (2/5/2021) email.

We recently discovered that an older, unauthorized mobile app was recently re-released without our consent. Security is our highest priority so rest assured that your personal information is secure.

Is this referring to wsandroid? and if so how can this app be operating without ws consent if the app operates off of an API key that is granted from WS?

Kenny Sexton
@kennysexton

Just curious because it looks like Warmshowers before they had an app that was build by a third party used to endorse this volunteer project. (repo is linked on in the readme of warmshowers.org).

Now in 2021 the recent email looks like a call to action for users to stop using community created open source versions of the app. Framing it as though it is a security concern, which I don't understand. I am hoping anyone with more experience about this project can provide from insight.

Sorry that I am just finding out about this project now. I am interested in helping out, but I worry that Warm Showers is going to end support for this project as they try to get more users to use the paid experience.

Maria Kozinska
@mariha
Hey @kennysexton, welcome to the old WarmShowers devs forum!
I am not the best person to describe what has happened, in short there were changes to WS organization in recent years and the new board decided to change the direction for the platform.
There is a group of developers, people who volunteered their time to create WS Android app before the new WS era started who are willing to re-create the platform and community based on values of openness, transparency and trust.
As for now, I've created FB group where you can propose and vote for the name: Open alternative to WarmShowers.org and will follow with github repo once we set it up.
chagai95
@chagai95
Hi everyone, I'm a vollenteer on Trustroots and I'm curious about where your app is going :)
komape
@komape:matrix.org
[m]
hi everyone,
i just found this chat after posting this post in the WS forum: https://www.warmshowers.org/node/371595
i saw that you have some plans to establish an alternative to WS. how far are you with your plans? i'm willing to help
cheers konstantin
Maria Kozinska
@mariha
to be honest, not far at all :blush:
As chagai95 mentioned, we got in touch with Trustroots, it is built by very nice guys, is open and transparent and welcomes contributors. As for now we encourage everyone to join Cyclists circle in TR: https://www.trustroots.org/circles/cyclists . And then we will see...
Maria Kozinska
@mariha
Answering your next question, right now in TR it is not possible to specify that one only wants to show up on the map for people in certain circles, though it is planned to be added: Trustroots/trustroots#397
komape
@komape:matrix.org
[m]
thanks for the quick answer. for now i don't really have time to set something up. during the summer i will be on a bike tour but after that i will defintely take a look into it. let's see if you have something started then or if i will start something 😉
Maria Kozinska
@mariha
sure, let't keep in touch. I myself am very limited in time right now too. There are a few other guys who are willing to rebuild the platform/community, so hopefully something will come out of this. Enjoy your trip!
komape
@komape:matrix.org
[m]
ok i just saw that they deleted the post in the forum. i think i have to delete my account
Maria Kozinska
@mariha
I’d expect they will, if haven’t yet, do it for you.
Sämy
@saemy

ok i just saw that they deleted the post in the forum. i think i have to delete my account

here is a backup of that forum thread.

chagai95
@chagai95
@komape:matrix.org how did you join the room on matrix? I think I'll be able to follow this much better from there, I just ended up here again by accident and I'm not sure I get email notifications 🙈
komape
@komape:matrix.org
[m]
@chagai95 i have no idea. i just made an account on element if i remember it correctly.
komape
@komape:matrix.org
[m]
Maria Kozinska
@mariha
I haven’t before. Thanks for pointing it out! Interesting that they’ve taken hollistic aproach to long-distance-cyclists. I kinda wish it was open source and community driven, but it feels much closer to my needs than WS is nowadays what reconfirms me that WS is targeted to different market segment then the one I apparently belong to, as a long distance cyclist. I wish Cycloscope all the best!
Maria Kozinska
@mariha
There is also https://WelcomeToMyGarden.org/ dedicated for slow-travellers. Just started during the lockdown but it’s my personal favourite.
Maria Kozinska
@mariha
Because of the scope (slow-travelers, inclusive to hikers, bicycle and kayak touring which I always wished to have together, with no-car policy) and the way how it is run (as an open collective with transparent finances, open source and feels like truly inclusive, at least to me).
komape
@komape:matrix.org
[m]
welcome to my garden looks promising. completely open source and seems like they are willing to accept code from externals. the only thing i don’t like is that it is focused on a garden. i live in flat without garden but with a room for guests. of course you could pitch up your tent in that room but you can just take the guest bed 😉
maybe they are open to open their concept for hosts without a garden
chagai95
@chagai95

Hey all @/all anyone wanna take place at this summit or any of it's discussions?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wQX47Cjy0iSp_Ql-9-aJmZBSywuzlINKljoYX4nGkuQ/edit#gid=0

HospEx
mariha
@mariha:matrix.org
[m]
Thanks @chagai95 for inviting everyone to the summit. There have been quite a few platforms represented: Trustroots, BeWelcome, Servas, WelcomeToMyGarden, Couchers and WarmShowers volunteers, no official representation from WS and CS. My take away is that there is a common desire to cooperate.
Maria Kozinska
@mariha

hey everyone! we are setting up for the development of this https://fedihospex.github.io, you are very welcome to join or provide us some feedback.

we chat here: https://matrix.to/#/#hospex:matrix.org

The plan is to:

  1. spin up, rebrand and adapt an instance of Trustroots.org for bicycle touring community
  2. implement some federation features, so that both platforms can communicate, show hosts on each other and the users can easily move from one to the other.
  3. WelcomeToMyGarden.org is considering switching backend to Trustroots, so they will likely join too.
  4. if it all works well, we can abstract the protocol so that BeWelcome, CyclePlanet and Couchers could join the network too
  5. in the long run, would be great to make it easy for new communities to have their own platforms, tailored to their specific needs and governed by their own rules
Mariha Kozinska
@mariha:matrix.org
[m]
A quick update: we have a new name and we can be found here now: https://openhospitality.network/ which is an attempt to create generalized hospitality exchange platform, which could be used by bicycle touring community then, to replace WarmShowers. I hope somehow to incubate the core volunteers team (newsletter, social media, translations, ...) in Trustroots team and do the platform development (mostly) in OHN team.