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    Tim Dennis
    @jt14den
    @richyvk have the pro zoom account here at ucla. I can set up a meeting if needed
    James Baker
    @drjwbaker
    @jezcope @weaverbel I'm not sure Gitter is the right technology for seperate discussion rooms, but I'm willing to try. What I don't want is a room for each lesson. What about something like:
    • General/Main
    • Lesson Development
    • Workshop Development
    • Social
    (I'm loath to suggest Slack..)
    Mark Laufersweiler
    @laufers
    The other choice is HipChat, and that brings with it its own set of issues. @jezcope @weaverbel
    I figure we're already here so we might as well see if it works. If not, we try something different.
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    Let's give those rooms a go. I still prefer Gitter to slack cos anyone can pop in.
    Also good to have chat rooms not linked to my github. Better to be linked to LC which makes more sense. But I have loved having you all 😀
    Richard Vankoningsveld
    @richyvk
    https://morph.io/ something else to mention in the web scraping lesson??
    Cam Macdonell
    @cmacdonell
    @weaverbel did you want to chat about South Africa sometime?
    Anelda van der Walt
    @anelda
    @cmacdonell we'll probably have a discussion about the SA LC workshop the week after next. I have to set a date. Would you like to join us? @weaverbel thanks for your email and apologies for not responding. Will set up new dates tomorrow my time.
    Cam Macdonell
    @cmacdonell
    @anelda Happy to!
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    Hi @cmacdonell I do. Last week just a disaster though as I caught a very bad cold plus I was finishing up at my old job. Teaching Mon Tue this week and then I can finally do some talking.
    @anelda I have been too sick to plan anything but my next sneeze. And that didn't work out too well. Finally on the mend now 😀
    Hey @ostephens Your instructor certificate should be winging its way to you shortly. Yee ha
    Richard Vankoningsveld
    @richyvk
    @jt14den Thanks for the Zoom offer. We'll see how we go with free account - 40 min max chat might actually be a good thing!
    Jez Cope
    @jezcope
    @/all Further discussion now over at https://gitter.im/LibraryCarpentry/Lobby
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    @/all I now think we should use this one for social and chit chat since people already know it and it is kinda embedded in all sorts of places and use the other new ones for serious work. So maybe delete the new 'social'? Or not?
    Jez Cope
    @jezcope
    @weaverbel sounds sensible to me
    James Baker
    @drjwbaker
    @weaverbel Can we pin a post in to this chat room or add a "this is what is it for" header to the page?
    Joel Nothman
    @jnothman
    Thanks for the comments @timtomch and sorry for the slow response. I'm not sure to what extent Portia has improved. Its interface is not as smooth as other visual scrapers (like import.io, yes, @richyvk), and feels like it has been engineered to align with scrapy rather than ux-oriented development practice. Its advantage is that it's open source and can be translated to scrapy. Launching it (if not using the paid, hosted version) requires launching a docker which is easy for someone with tech background but has some technical overhead for others.
    @richyvk: Does xpath make you shudder because you had some prior familiarity with CSS? Because it's more tightly tied to the document's tree structure? Because slashes are less friendly than spaces? Some other reason? I'm curious
    James Baker
    @drjwbaker
    Seems the /topic slash command no longer works :(
    Scratch that, I think only @weaverbel have permissions :)
    Breeda Herlihy
    @BreedaHerlihy_twitter
    Thanks @weaverbel for the additional suggestions. I'll get in contact via e-mail.
    Richard Vankoningsveld
    @richyvk
    @c-martinez @mkuzak firing up the zoom shortly. Hope you're around for a chat. https://zoom.us/j/913312113
    @weaverbel @drjwbaker @jezcope I say go with all gitter rooms on the one account, so ditch this one and use the new lobby. I know people now about this room, but you can leave a message to use the other one frequently. Best thing is a clean swap if it's going to happen.
    Mateusz Kuzak
    @mkuzak
    @richyvk see you in 15 min
    Richard Vankoningsveld
    @richyvk
    cool
    Owen Stephens
    @ostephens
    Think I agree with @richyvk - if we are going to have several LC rooms, better to have them all work and be managed in the same way
    James Baker
    @drjwbaker
    Okay. I'm happy to with a wholesale switch to https://gitter.im/LibraryCarpentry/
    Can we archive this?
    Once we agree, I'll edit links across the lesson repos.
    James Baker
    @drjwbaker
    Hi all. We are proposing to stop using this chatroom (archiving it if possible..), leave a message here to say it is closed and move to 3 chat rooms:
    I feel we need some kind of Quorum
    Owen Stephens
    @ostephens
    +1 from me
    James Baker
    @drjwbaker
    The case for is: this place is too small for us now as we are loosing the threads of many discussions, in particular those of new people saying hi (which can get swamped by other good natter); we get a natural filter point that feeds more obviously into raising issues against lessons
    The case against is: stability; it takes some work to unpick all the links; sentimentality
    Your opinions are appreciated (we'll obviously wait for people in various timezones to have a say before we take an action)