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<omijee> Please reply if anyone has the solution
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<SunBeam> google, please
<SunBeam> that's VMProtect
<SunBeam> if you ask how to unpack, you're off to a wrong start πŸ˜„
<SunBeam> ..or Themida [?]
<SunBeam> would be surprised to still see software protected by it πŸ˜„
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<lpcvoid> There are a shitload of vendors who use themida/vmprotect still
<lpcvoid> The desktop win32 software market is not as dead as poeple think it is
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<omijee> It's tally software (re @x64dbg_bot: <SunBeam> google, please)
<mov_eax_0xFFFFFFFF> try hyperhide in vm (re @omijee: Please reply if anyone has the solution)
<mov_eax_0xFFFFFFFF> https://github.com/Air14/HyperHide
<omijee> I m noob (re @mov_eax_0xFFFFFFFF: try hyperhide in vm)
<mov_eax_0xFFFFFFFF> easy to install
<omijee> Vm?
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<dikidera2> Noobs should read more
<dikidera2> When you grasp the problem only then can you grasp the solution
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<GroupAnonymousBot> ^ last and final warning on this Themida/VMprotect off-topic thing. You’ve been given tons of information @omijee (re @mrexodia: Official x64dbg group chat.
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<dikidera2> I plan to buy a PS5 in the future.
<dikidera2> How can I help with jailbreaking the thing
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<lpcvoid> What don't you understand about off topic
<omijee> Can anyone help me crack tally prime software
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<SunBeam> guess some people can't be helped
<SunBeam> I too wanted to make trainers about 20 years ago.. and I didn't have Discord or even decent internet
<SunBeam> so I started slowly learning ASM, coding my "hello world" programs (now they call them 'applications' - - fuck you, Android) and then learned of packers/protectors and started from zero: UPX, ASProtect, Armadillo, etc. You learn a lot by taking your time and slowly writing your own conclusions. But nah.. today.. everyone wants, everyone thinks watching an YouTube video makes them some hacker.. people have no patience, no goals broader than 1 target.. they want to crack this and that but lack the modicum base knowledge.. so there we go, keep on begging..
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<SunBeam> but hey, here's a nice joke: why can't a bicycle stand on its own? because it's two/too tired
<lpcvoid> Oh I feel you, haha
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<morsisko> boomers detected πŸ˜΅β€πŸ’«
<noneeeek> πŸ₯²πŸ₯² (re @x64dbg_bot: <SunBeam> so I started slowly learning ASM, coding my "hello world" programs (now they call them 'applications' - - fuck you, Android) and then learned of packers/protectors and started from zero: UPX, ASProtect, Armadillo, etc. You learn a lot by taking your time and slowly writing your own conclusions. But nah.. today.. everyone wants, everyone thinks watching an YouTube video makes them some hacker.. people have no patience, no goals broader than 1 target.. they want to crack this and that but lack the modicum base knowledge.. so there we go, keep on begging..)
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<Yakov5776> Boomers unite
<noneeeek> (re @Yakov5776: Boomers unite)
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<SunBeam> hey, at least I don't waste that much time actually spoon-feeding and doing the work for the beggar πŸ˜›
<SunBeam> venting is fine πŸ˜›
<SunBeam> but yeah, can't help but think of today's generation πŸ˜„ where a "crack" is an emulation DLL, which, for some stupid logic -- the real logic is them trying to protect the methods they use -- comes protected with anti-debug.. so a "cracked" game ends-up being undebuggable cuz of that "steam_api.dll" that's shipped with ALL options of VMProtect (see CPY...)
<SunBeam> miss the old days when RELOADED and other teams were actually releasing cracks and knew the meaning of the word; this generation.. == "whatever works" πŸ˜„ and they spell it wrong, to create fake advertising of what their work isn't.. not a crack
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<GroupAnonymousBot> They’re gone (re @lpcvoid: What don't you understand about off topic)
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<TomieKawakami> cant blame them. they dont want their method to be stolen xD ida hexray is maturing now xD one hit of an f5 and some common sense u can duplicate their method. claim it as yours. and i dont think emulation is a stupid trick, one good thing about it is you can leave the application untouched if you just proxied it or emulate it.. cracking dongles requires that sometimes xD I mean the method of cracking is not just 1 and theres no standard for it. .but they all share the same goal.. its kinda like speedrun xD tons of category but you may or not disaggree with it. but the end goal is to beat the system / target :slight_smile: isn't that what cracking means to begin with? to break it. regardless of the method.
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<SunBeam> ^ man, I didn't question the importance or usefulness; the only thing I said is these are NOT cracks
<SunBeam> they should be labeled properly, as Emu or something else (not Crack)
<SunBeam> the scene definition for "crack" is not the wiki/dictionary definition; it's a clean/restored binary file that doesn't contain any trace of the protection (been in RE, I know wtf I'm talking about when I speak scene/0-day; the 0-day of 10-15 years ago, not today's crap)
<SunBeam> which part of that ^ is found in these (so-called 'cracks') emus, if the binary is left untouched?...
<SunBeam> I believe the term "crack" is being misused and lost its meaning across time, much like everyone nowadays uses the hashtag (#) to tag anything that crosses their minds
<SunBeam> when the use of the # is to collect together elements that belong to a same category
<SunBeam> who in their right mind searches for #iwannamakeamillionbucksandbefamous? 😐
<SunBeam> super helpful.. that surely helps me find whatever relevant information I'm looking for 😐 /sarcasm
<SunBeam> @TomieKawakami
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<GroupAnonymousBot> Please keep on topic.
<SunBeam> I actually am
<SunBeam> we've been following the same topic for 1-2hrs now πŸ˜„
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<EvanHolmes> Best Earning.
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<Matti> @SunBeam please do everyone a favour and stfu