<noneeeek> 🥲🥲 (re @x64dbg_bot: <SunBeam> so I started slowly learning ASM, coding my "hello world" programs (now they call them 'applications' - - fuck you, Android) and then learned of packers/protectors and started from zero: UPX, ASProtect, Armadillo, etc. You learn a lot by taking your time and slowly writing your own conclusions. But nah.. today.. everyone wants, everyone thinks watching an YouTube video makes them some hacker.. people have no patience, no goals broader than 1 target.. they want to crack this and that but lack the modicum base knowledge.. so there we go, keep on begging..)
<noneeeek> (re @Yakov5776: Boomers unite)
<SunBeam> venting is fine 😛
<SunBeam> but yeah, can't help but think of today's generation 😄 where a "crack" is an emulation DLL, which, for some stupid logic -- the real logic is them trying to protect the methods they use -- comes protected with anti-debug.. so a "cracked" game ends-up being undebuggable cuz of that "steam_api.dll" that's shipped with ALL options of VMProtect (see CPY...)
<SunBeam> miss the old days when RELOADED and other teams were actually releasing cracks and knew the meaning of the word; this generation.. == "whatever works" 😄 and they spell it wrong, to create fake advertising of what their work isn't.. not a crack
<TomieKawakami>
cant blame them. they dont want their method to be stolen xD ida hexray is maturing now xD one hit of an f5 and some common sense u can duplicate their method. claim it as yours. and i dont think emulation is a stupid trick, one good thing about it is you can leave the application untouched if you just proxied it or emulate it.. cracking dongles requires that sometimes xD I mean the method of cracking is not just 1 and theres no standard for it. .but they all share the same goal.. its kinda like speedrun xD tons of category but you may or not disaggree with it. but the end goal is to beat the system / target :slight_smile: isn't that what cracking means to begin with? to break it. regardless of the method.
<SunBeam> they should be labeled properly, as Emu or something else (not Crack)
<SunBeam> the scene definition for "crack" is not the wiki/dictionary definition; it's a clean/restored binary file that doesn't contain any trace of the protection (been in RE, I know wtf I'm talking about when I speak scene/0-day; the 0-day of 10-15 years ago, not today's crap)
<SunBeam> which part of that ^ is found in these (so-called 'cracks') emus, if the binary is left untouched?...
<SunBeam> I believe the term "crack" is being misused and lost its meaning across time, much like everyone nowadays uses the hashtag (#) to tag anything that crosses their minds
<SunBeam> when the use of the # is to collect together elements that belong to a same category
<SunBeam> who in their right mind searches for #iwannamakeamillionbucksandbefamous? 😐
<SunBeam> super helpful.. that surely helps me find whatever relevant information I'm looking for 😐 /sarcasm
<SunBeam> @TomieKawakami
<SunBeam> I actually am
<SunBeam> we've been following the same topic for 1-2hrs now 😄
<mrexodia> Matti boos
<farmdve> I however had a different account on telegram
<farmdve> It was me that asked that about PS5 and then I enter and see I am banned/blocked.
<mrexodia> Didn’t see anything about ps5
<mrexodia> But sure I remember you from the old days ^^
<Ravindra009> Hey hi
<Ravindra009> 1 year
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<SWaNk> Another level of disrespect, congrats