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Robert (Tom) Groner
@TomGroner
Kaspersky
I guess the real question was there an update in the last few hours, or did I already have something and this is a false flag lol. Time to take a look at some stuff.
matrixbot
@matrixbot
tebjan 2 days ago there was a launcher update
tebjan version 2.0.2 it is now
Robert (Tom) Groner
@TomGroner
Hmm I've used the launcher dozens of times over the last few days, I should have gotten the update already. I'll dig around.
Robert (Tom) Groner
@TomGroner
Unrelated but v3.1 and modular design is excellent. I see Xenko.Engine will be available alone, and then Xenko.Graphics can be obtained separate. That makes me wonder.
Does that mean that it should be easy(ish) to run Xenko essentially in a "headless" mode? That would be great for a client / server setup.
I tried to do this back in v2.0 and found too many places that required specific class implementations instead of a reference to an interface implementation. All I could do was hide the window but it was still trying to use and draw with the graphics device.
SimantoR
@SimantoR
This could be a nice thing on road map. But what would be the use-cases for a headless Game Engine?
RUSshy
@RUSshy
server, custom editor, or people who prefer to make games without an editor
Robert (Tom) Groner
@TomGroner
@SimantoR I attempted to make a simple multiplayer game with Xenko running an instance of the game, so that the server could be the authority on physics and other things, using the same exact code as the client.
The issue I ran into is that the VM I was trying to run the server on had no video hardware at all beyond whatever minimum software driver windows needs.
When I tired to disable or suppress things for a server-mode, I kept finding a handful of things that the engine was doing internally that kept trying to get a graphics card.
SimantoR
@SimantoR
So a headless approach is gonna need a lot of re-structuring
Robert (Tom) Groner
@TomGroner
Possibly. I just today started working on an update to help fix the pieces I remember being blocked by. The biggest problem is that a few places cast an interface to a specific class implementation. So even when I tried to create my own version of things in a derived class, it would crash at run time. That's the thing I am looking at now.
Degaron
@Degaron
hello
Degaron
@Degaron

Where to download MIT Xenko?

I recently downloaded Xenko and it was written in license that the developer of Xenko would cooperate with law enforcement agencies or something similar, sue and etc.

But this is unacceptable for an open project.

Robert (Tom) Groner
@TomGroner
https://github.com/xenko3d/xenko I believe there may be some files with license or copyright wording still in the files but the version on github for the account xenko3d is MIT. Just make sure you don't have a version from the account SiliconStudios.
Robert (Tom) Groner
@TomGroner
hmm can't seem to install the VS plugin? I had to reinstalled VS, went to get the Xenko extension, can't seem to get it to install. Tried on a fresh VM and it didn't work there either.
Tebjan Halm
@tebjan
Never had problems with that...
Are you aware that the plug-in only shows up in Xenko solutions?
Nicolas Musset
@Kryptos-FR
Should we keep that channel? Seems like everyone is on discord now.
Tebjan Halm
@tebjan
can it be closed but stays up for reading with a message where to go now?
SimantoR
@SimantoR
Is there any portion of Xenko I can help with?
Robert Campbell
@jayrulez
What are you interested in?
Also, the xenko discord is much more active than here so you may want to ask there instead.
SimantoR
@SimantoR
Ok how do i get in there?
Robert Campbell
@jayrulez
Community section of the website
RUSshy
@RUSshy
what is progress on nuget packages ?
Robert Campbell
@jayrulez
Almost ready for testing
Or you can test from master branch
Nicolas Musset
@Kryptos-FR
Next step would be to also release those packages on nuget.org. Given possible breaking changes after the next release, maybe it will take at least one more release before it goes public but at least we should be able to use them from Xenko packages store.
Nicolas Musset
@Kryptos-FR
Just a guess though... @xen2 would know better ;)
RUSshy
@RUSshy
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@jayrulez is there a beta/testing nuget repo ? i can't install any more stuff on this PC :(
Nicolas Musset
@Kryptos-FR
You should clean up ASAP (or buy a new drive). Your system will be unstable until you have at least an amount equivalent to your total RAM. The system needs to be able to dump the memory in some cases (recover from a crash, etc.).
RUSshy
@RUSshy
yeah i should get a new SSD soon for christmas
Robert Campbell
@jayrulez
I got a 1tb ssd yesterday for the same reason
By the way @RUSshy the discord is more active than here.
matrixbot
@matrixbot
tebjan i've also mirrored the discord on matrix: https://riot.im/app/#/group/+xenko:matrix.org
justStand
@justStand
I'm not a very good coder, but if I wanted to try to fix a 'good first issue' like this xenko3d/xenko#273
how would I even go about it?
Roman Shapiro
@rds1983
hi
is there a tutorial on creating simple Xenko project using only nuget
without installation of the xenko distribution
matrixbot
@matrixbot
tebjan Not yet
tebjan It's quite new
tebjan But make an issue on GitHub, it's quite needed
Roman Shapiro
@rds1983
sure
anyway, I've created new .net core console app
then did Install-Package Xenko.Engine -Version 3.1.0.1-beta01-0318